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Re: CRITICIZING DEAD SCIENCE

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From: Sue...
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:59
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On Jun 9, 2:57Β am, "Whoever" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> "Pentcho Valev" <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:78cd5143-5c07-41a8-b20d-a24bf7dbea04@e21g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
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> >http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a909857880
> > "The Ideology of Relativity: The Case of the Clock Paradox" by Peter
> > Hayes
> > "There is, nonetheless, some divergence about how to resolve the clock
> > paradox amongst mainstream scientists and philosophers who address the
> > issue. The majority suggest that (a) the general theory is required to
> > resolve the paradox because like "Kritikus" they have deduced - quite
> > correctly - that it cannot be explained by the special theory.
> > However, a minority believe that (b) the paradox can be explained by
> > the special theory because they have deduced - again quite correctly -
> > that it is incredible to suppose that only the general theory can
> > explain a prediction ostensibly arising from the prior special theory.
> > Each deduction, considered in isolation, is allowable within the
> > mainstream; what is not permitted is to bring the two of them together
> > to conclude that (c) neither the special nor the general theory
> > explains time dilation."
>

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> No .. the correct answer is d) that SR and GR do both explain it. Β And get
> identical results.

The results are neither rational nor identical.
They are refuted in rigorous analysis.

On Einstein's resolution of the twin clock paradox.
--C. S. Unnikrishnan.
Gravitation Group,
Tata Institute of Fundamental Research
http://www.ias.ac.in/currsci/dec252005/2009.pdf

How much of the "Kool-aid" did you drink?  ;-)

Sue...
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