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Article #6606Re: gravitational bending of light, surprising?
From: Y.Porat
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:52
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 01:52
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On May 19, 7:22 pm, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote: > On May 19, 12:05 pm, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Then the clever teacher should explain: "Brothers Einsteinans, > > Einstein's 1911 calculation based on Newton's emission theory of light > > was wrong/correct and inconsistent/consistent with the gravitational > > redshift factor 1+V/c^2, Einstein's 1916 calculation was correct/wrong > > and consistent/inconsistent with the gravitational redshift factor 1+V/ > > c^2, but in any case the speed of light in a gravitational field is > > VARIABLE. So those who teach you that the speed of light in a > > gravitational field is constant are by no means clever teachers." > > You know, Pentcho, at some point you should take responsibility for > your own confusion -- and CORRECT it -- rather than pinning the blame > on teachers for your confusion. It's really not a big deal. It happens > to students every day that they misunderstand something that their > teacher said, and you don't find them spending their lifetimes > expressing their outrage at their teachers for their misunderstanding. > > PD ------------------------ what is misunderstanding by knowing that the photon has mass from say the formulas E=hf and therefore bends next to the sun may be it is the misunderstanding of parrot teachers that waist the precious human resources by THEIR misunderstandings ??? what is the misunderstanding by un derstanding that the photon is a limit case OF A MASS that moves at c ??? and people why misunderstand and consider themselves as understanding all physics and then blaming others for misunderstandings !! that is inmany cases much wrong than misunderstanding that is **dishonesty **!!! Y.Porat ----------------------------- -----------------
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