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Article #6895Re: Evidence for Lorentz Contraction?
From: Tom Roberts
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:57
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:57
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Pentcho Valev wrote: > On Apr 3, 6:16 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in > sci.physics.relativity: >> [MMX experiments] >> indicated that Maxwell's theory was wrong (along with a number >> of other experiments trying to measure "motion wrt the aether"). > > Yes the Michelson-Morley experiment did refute > Maxwell's theory (more precisely, its implication that the speed of > light is independent of the speed of the light source) No, the Michelson-Morley experiment did NOT "refute" the "implication" that the speed of light is independent of the speed of the light source. It refuted MAXWELL'S THEORY. Experiments can only refute THEORIES, not "implications". Indeed, we know that SR includes this "implication" and yet is fully consistent with this experiment. > but why don't > you add that the selfsame experiment did confirm Newton's emission > theory of light Because that was not part of the discussion. > http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/archive/00001743/02/Norton.pdf > John Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as > evidence for the principle of relativity, whereas later writers almost > universally use it as support for the light postulate of special > relativity......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE > WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT > POSTULATE." Yes, this one experiment is consistent with emission theories of light. But there are LOTS of other experiments, and many of them are inconsistent with emission theories. You chide me for omitting mention of your favorite alternative, but you omit far more important facts, that make your alternative untenable. Grow up. Get a life. You repeat the same nonsense so often that I and most other sensible people just ignore you most of the time. Your posts include a serious naivet� and an irritating style that indicates gross immaturity on your part. Stop wasting your time posting nonsense to the net, and go LEARN something about modern physics. Tom Roberts
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