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Article #6896Re: Evidence for Lorentz Contraction?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:42
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:42
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On Apr 3, 4:57 pm, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > On Apr 3, 6:16 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in > > sci.physics.relativity: > >> [MMX experiments] > >> indicated that Maxwell's theory was wrong (along with a number > >> of other experiments trying to measure "motion wrt the aether"). > > > Yes the Michelson-Morley experiment did refute > > Maxwell's theory (more precisely, its implication that the speed of > > light is independent of the speed of the light source) > > No, the Michelson-Morley experiment did NOT "refute" the "implication" > that the speed of light is independent of the speed of the light source. > It refuted MAXWELL'S THEORY. Experiments can only refute THEORIES, not > "implications". Whoever told you that, Honest Roberts? Any theory normally has many implications (conclusions), some of them possibly correct, others possibly false. It is so obvious that experimental results initially contadict SINGLE CONCLUSIONS. Then the theory is either rejected or repaired but this depends on additional theoretical analysis. Just consider the standard textbook calculation of the Michelson- Morley experiment: your brothers Einsteinians use constant speed of light (independent of the speed of the light source) and obtain a theoretical result inconsistent with the experimental result. In other words, the experimental result contadicts (refutes) the constant speed of light assumption. If your brothers Einsteinians could find courage to replace "c" with the respective formulas given by Newton's emission theory of light, they would obtain a theoretical result consistent with the experimental result. > Indeed, we know that SR includes this "implication" and > yet is fully consistent with this experiment. Special relativity can be regarded as the aether theory plus a protective belt built by FitzGerald and Lorentz. Read Lakatos, Honest Roberts. Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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