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Article #700Re: BEAUTIFUL DEAD SCIENCE
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:51
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:51
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Beautiful dead science and doublethink: The truth: Maxwell's theory says the speed of light does not depend on the speed of the emitter but does depend on the speed of the observer: http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/58 "Maxwell's theory of electricity and magnetism provides a successful framework with which to study light. In this theory light is an electromagnetic wave. Using Maxwell's equations one can compute the speed of light. One finds that the speed of light is 300,000,000 meters (186,000 miles) per second. The question arises: which inertial observer is this speed of light relative to? As in the previous paragraph, two inertial observers traveling relative to each other should observe DIFFERENT SPEEDS FOR THE SAME LIGHT WAVE." http://www.futura-sciences.com/fr/doc/t/physique/d/relativite-restreinte-et-naissance-de-lespace-temps_509/c3/221/p5/ "Les équations de Maxwell prévoyaient la propagation de la lumière à la vitesse de 300.000 km/s par rapport à l'éther. Or, si l'on cherche à calculer la vitesse de la lumière par rapport à un référentiel qui est lui-même mobile dans l'éther, on observe que la lumière se propage avec une vitesse différente..." http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/companion.doc John Norton: "Einstein's second postulate, the light postulate, asserts that "light is always propagated in empty space with a definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the emitting body." Einstein gave no justification for this postulate in the introduction to his paper. Its strongest justification came from Maxwell's electrodynamics. That theory had identified light with waves propagating in an electromagnetic field and concluded that just one speed was possible for them in empty space, c = 300,000 km/sec, no matter what the motion of the emitter." The lie (always one leap ahead of the truth): Maxwell's theory says the speed of light is absolute and does not depend on the speed of the observer: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/relatvty.htm Relativity Tutorial: "But 200 years after Newton the theory of electromagnetism was developed into Maxwell's equations. These equations describe waves with a speed of 1/sqrt(epsilon_o*mu_o), where epsilon_o is the constant describing the strength of the electrostatic force in a vacuum, and mu_o is the constant describing the strength of the magnetic interaction in a vacuum. This is an absolute velocity -- it is not relative to anything." http://sampit.geol.sc.edu/Doppler.html "Moving observer: A man is standing on the beach, watching the tide. The waves are washing into the shore and over his feet with a constant frequency and wavelength. However, if he begins walking out into the ocean, the waves will begin hitting him more frequently, leading him to perceive that the wavelength of the waves has decreased. Again, this phenomenon is due to the fact that the source and the observer are not the in the same frame of reference. Although the wavelength appears to have decreased to the man, the wavelength would appear constant to a jellyfish floating along with the tide." http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/index.html John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." http://www.math.mcgill.ca/lseguin/physique.php "Donc, Maxwell se demanda: "Mais pourquoi donc mes paramètres correspondent-ils à la vitesse de la lumière ?" Et il fit des calculs palpitants pendant longtemps. Après des heures de plaisir, il trouva que ses équations prédisaient une vitesse c pour les ondes électromagnétiques (la lumière par exemple) et que cette vitesse c était une constante, peut importe le référentiel. Donc, peut importe qui mesure la vitesse de la lumière, ça sera toujours c." http://www.techno-science.net/?onglet=glossaire&definition=1711 "D'après les théories de la physique moderne, et notamment les équations de Maxwell, la lumière visible et toutes les ondes électromagnétiques ont une vitesse constante dans le vide, la vitesse de la lumière. On la considère donc comme une constante physique notée c (du latin celeritas, « vitesse »). Mais elle n'est pas seulement constante (pense-t-on) en tous les endroits (et à tous les âges) de l'univers (principes cosmologiques faible et fort, respectivement) ; elle l'est également d'un repère inertiel à un autre (principe d'équivalence restreint). En d'autres termes : quel que soit le repère inertiel de référence d'un observateur ou la vitesse de l'objet émettant la lumière, tout observateur obtiendra la même mesure." Definition of doublethink: http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/1984-17.html#seventeen George Orwell: "Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories must be altered; he therefore knows that he is playing tricks with reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself that reality is not violated. The process has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt. Doublethink lies at the very heart of Ingsoc, since the essential act of the Party is to use conscious deception while retaining the firmness of purpose that goes with complete honesty. To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies - all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge ; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth." http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/1984-17.html#seventeen George Orwell: "It need hardly be said that the subtlest practitioners of doublethink are those who invented doublethink and know that it is a vast system of mental cheating. In our society, those who have the best knowledge of what is happening are also those who are furthest from seeing the world as it is. In general, the greater the understanding, the greater the delusion ; the more intelligent, the less sane." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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