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Article #701Re: BEAUTIFUL DEAD SCIENCE
From: yvan Bozzonetti
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:05
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:05
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On 20 mar, 08:51, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Beautiful dead science and doublethink: > > The truth: Maxwell's theory says the speed of light does not depend on > the speed of the emitter but does depend on the speed of the observer: > > http://www.solidarity-us.org/node/58 > "Maxwell's theory of electricity and magnetism provides a successful > framework with which to study light. In this theory light is an > electromagnetic wave. Using Maxwell's equations one can compute the > speed of light. One finds that the speed of light is 300,000,000 > meters (186,000 miles) per second. The question arises: which inertial > observer is this speed of light relative to? As in the previous > paragraph, two inertial observers traveling relative to each other > should observe DIFFERENT SPEEDS FOR THE SAME LIGHT WAVE." > > http://www.futura-sciences.com/fr/doc/t/physique/d/relativite-restrei... > "Les équations de Maxwell prévoyaient la propagation de la lumière à > la vitesse de 300.000 km/s par rapport à l'éther. Or, si l'on cherche > à calculer la vitesse de la lumière par rapport à un référentiel qui > est lui-même mobile dans l'éther, on observe que la lumière se propage > avec une vitesse différente..." > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/papers/companion.doc > John Norton: "Einstein's second postulate, the light postulate, > asserts that "light is always propagated in empty space with a > definite velocity c which is independent of the state of motion of the > emitting body." Einstein gave no justification for this postulate in > the introduction to his paper. Its strongest justification came from > Maxwell's electrodynamics. That theory had identified light with waves > propagating in an electromagnetic field and concluded that just one > speed was possible for them in empty space, c = 300,000 km/sec, no > matter what the motion of the emitter." > > The lie (always one leap ahead of the truth): Maxwell's theory says > the speed of light is absolute and does not depend on the speed of the > observer: > > http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/relatvty.htm > Relativity Tutorial: "But 200 years after Newton the theory of > electromagnetism was developed into Maxwell's equations. These > equations describe waves with a speed of 1/sqrt(epsilon_o*mu_o), where > epsilon_o is the constant describing the strength of the electrostatic > force in a vacuum, and mu_o is the constant describing the strength of > the magnetic interaction in a vacuum. This is an absolute velocity -- > it is not relative to anything." > > http://sampit.geol.sc.edu/Doppler.html > "Moving observer: A man is standing on the beach, watching the tide. > The waves are washing into the shore and over his feet with a constant > frequency and wavelength. However, if he begins walking out into the > ocean, the waves will begin hitting him more frequently, leading him > to perceive that the wavelength of the waves has decreased. Again, > this phenomenon is due to the fact that the source and the observer > are not the in the same frame of reference. Although the wavelength > appears to have decreased to the man, the wavelength would appear > constant to a jellyfish floating along with the tide." > > http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/big_bang/ind... > John Norton: "Here's a light wave and an observer. If the observer > were to hurry towards the source of the light, the observer would now > pass wavecrests more frequently than the resting observer. That would > mean that moving observer would find the frequency of the light to > have increased (AND CORRESPONDINGLY FOR THE WAVELENGTH - THE DISTANCE > BETWEEN CRESTS - TO HAVE DECREASED)." > > http://www.math.mcgill.ca/lseguin/physique.php > "Donc, Maxwell se demanda: "Mais pourquoi donc mes paramètres > correspondent-ils à la vitesse de la lumière ?" Et il fit des calculs > palpitants pendant longtemps. Après des heures de plaisir, il trouva > que ses équations prédisaient une vitesse c pour les ondes > électromagnétiques (la lumière par exemple) et que cette vitesse c > était une constante, peut importe le référentiel. Donc, peut importe > qui mesure la vitesse de la lumière, ça sera toujours c." > > http://www.techno-science.net/?onglet=glossaire&definition=1711 > "D'après les théories de la physique moderne, et notamment les > équations de Maxwell, la lumière visible et toutes les ondes > électromagnétiques ont une vitesse constante dans le vide, la vitesse > de la lumière. On la considère donc comme une constante physique notée > c (du latin celeritas, « vitesse »). Mais elle n'est pas seulement > constante (pense-t-on) en tous les endroits (et à tous les âges) de > l'univers (principes cosmologiques faible et fort, respectivement) ; > elle l'est également d'un repère inertiel à un autre (principe > d'équivalence restreint). En d'autres termes : quel que soit le repère > inertiel de référence d'un observateur ou la vitesse de l'objet > émettant la lumière, tout observateur obtiendra la même mesure." > > Definition of doublethink: > > http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/1984-17.html#seventeen > George Orwell: "Doublethink means the power of holding two > contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both > of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories > must be altered; he therefore knows that he is playing tricks with > reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself > that reality is not violated. The process has to be conscious, or it > would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to > be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and > hence of guilt. Doublethink lies at the very heart of Ingsoc, since > the essential act of the Party is to use conscious deception while > retaining the firmness of purpose that goes with complete honesty. To > tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any > fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary > again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, > to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take > account of the reality which one denies - all this is indispensably > necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to > exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is > tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this > knowledge ; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead > of the truth." > > http://www.liferesearchuniversal.com/1984-17.html#seventeen > George Orwell: "It need hardly be said that the subtlest practitioners > of doublethink are those who invented doublethink and know that it is > a vast system of mental cheating. In our society, those who have the > best knowledge of what is happening are also those who are furthest > from seeing the world as it is. In general, the greater the > understanding, the greater the delusion ; the more intelligent, the > less sane." > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com Degage petasse. Y.B.
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