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On Sep 10, 11:38 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
wrote:
> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sep 10, 10:08 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> > wrote:
> >> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Sep 10, 9:30 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OMG,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> work, nor what "time" is.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is no "real" negatives in the universe.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 positive feet away now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL
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> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
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> >>>>>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
> >>>>>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
> >>>>>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
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> >>http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Go ahead.
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> >>>>>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
> >>>>>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative
> >>>>>>>>>> distance away from me and not be a postive distance away when
> >>>>>>>>>> he has done so. :)
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> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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> >>>>>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
> >>>>>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement
> >>>>>>>>> then their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or
> >>>>>>>>> negative direction their spanky, does that make any logical
> >>>>>>>>> sense to you sir.
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> >>>>>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
> >>>>>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
> >>>>>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
> >>>>>>>> "negative" motion in reality.
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> >>>>>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
> >>>>>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
> >>>>>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
> >>>>>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of
> >>>>>>>>> the movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an
> >>>>>>>>> hour in the direction of the trains forward path can you or
> >>>>>>>>> your friend move in a negative or positive direction.
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> >>>>>>>> People move postive distances always.
> >>>>>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
> >>>>>>>> distance.
> >>>>>>>> Again,
> >>>>>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
> >>>>>>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
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> >>>>>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
> >>>>>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
> >>>>>>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
> >>>>>>>> :)
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> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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> >>>>>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving
> >>>>>>> away from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance
> >>>>>>> is achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the
> >>>>>>> veiwers frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out
> >>>>>>> blowing out nut sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative
> >>>>>>> distance from you at that same hundred feet.
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> >>>>>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does
> >>>>>> not have.
> >>>>>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they
> >>>>>> can prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others
> >>>>>> facing the other way.
> >>>>>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
> >>>>>> distance
> >>>>>> to begin with.
> >>>>>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a
> >>>>>> negative distance that does not truly exist in reality.
> >>>>>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
> >>>>>> will then have -4 apples?
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> >>>>>> The fact of the whole thing is...
> >>>>>> There are no "physical" negatives.
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> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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> >>>>> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured
> >>>>> in postive or negatives only distance and time
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> >>>> There is no "movement" "IN" time.
> >>>> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
> >>>> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
> >>>> movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
> >>>> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
> >>>> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be
> >>>> physical when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the
> >>>> physical only.
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> >>>> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical
> >>>> mass, the counting is abstract.
> >>>> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
> >>>> moved inside it ever.
> >>>> :)
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> >>>> --
> >>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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> >>> So are you saying we don’t live and move or exsist within a space
> >>> time continuum?
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> >> Correct, we "exist" in space and we invented time to count and
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> > well then since we invented time and you said we exist in space then
> > spance and time exist together so your arguing with you self on what I
> > have already said.
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> No,
> You are mixing up an abstract dimension with a physical dimension
> instead of keeping them seperate.
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I see I believe they are not separate though so I guess that’s where
we disagree but I have been wrong many times before and I’m sure it
wont be the last but back to the question of me moving 100 feet away
from you I believe space and time both play a role in you dilemma of
moving only in a positive direction when someone moves a hundred feet
from you and it has to be in a positive direction that’s debatable but
I’m open for a clearer explanation so I can get on the same page.