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rustyjames777@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 10, 10:08 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> wrote:
>> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sep 10, 9:30 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
>>> wrote:
>>>> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OMG,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work, nor what "time" is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no "real" negatives in the universe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 positive feet away now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
>>>>>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
>>>>>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
>>
>> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Go ahead.
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
>>>>>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative
>>>>>>>>>> distance away from me and not be a postive distance away when
>>>>>>>>>> he has done so. :)
>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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>>>>>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
>>>>>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement
>>>>>>>>> then their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or
>>>>>>>>> negative direction their spanky, does that make any logical
>>>>>>>>> sense to you sir.
>>
>>>>>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
>>>>>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
>>>>>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
>>>>>>>> "negative" motion in reality.
>>
>>>>>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
>>>>>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
>>>>>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
>>>>>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of
>>>>>>>>> the movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an
>>>>>>>>> hour in the direction of the trains forward path can you or
>>>>>>>>> your friend move in a negative or positive direction.
>>
>>>>>>>> People move postive distances always.
>>>>>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
>>>>>>>> distance.
>>>>>>>> Again,
>>>>>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
>>>>>>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
>>
>>>>>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
>>>>>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
>>>>>>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
>>>>>>>> :)
>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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>>>>>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving
>>>>>>> away from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance
>>>>>>> is achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the
>>>>>>> veiwers frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out
>>>>>>> blowing out nut sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative
>>>>>>> distance from you at that same hundred feet.
>>
>>>>>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does
>>>>>> not have.
>>>>>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they
>>>>>> can prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others
>>>>>> facing the other way.
>>>>>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
>>>>>> distance
>>>>>> to begin with.
>>>>>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a
>>>>>> negative distance that does not truly exist in reality.
>>>>>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
>>>>>> will then have -4 apples?
>>
>>>>>> The fact of the whole thing is...
>>>>>> There are no "physical" negatives.
>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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>>>>> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured
>>>>> in postive or negatives only distance and time
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>>>> There is no "movement" "IN" time.
>>>> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
>>>> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
>>>> movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
>>>> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
>>>> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be
>>>> physical when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the
>>>> physical only.
>>
>>>> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical
>>>> mass, the counting is abstract.
>>>> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
>>>> moved inside it ever.
>>>> :)
>>
>>>> --
>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
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>>> So are you saying we don�t live and move or exsist within a space
>>> time continuum?
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>> Correct, we "exist" in space and we invented time to count and
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> well then since we invented time and you said we exist in space then
> spance and time exist together so your arguing with you self on what I
> have already said.

No,
You are mixing up an abstract dimension with a physical dimension
instead of keeping them seperate.
They do not exist "together" they are two different dimensions types,
one abstract and one physical.