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Article #7112Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH
From: rustyjames777
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:28
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:28
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On Sep 10, 10:08Β am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sep 10, 9:30 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > > wrote: > >> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > >>> wrote: > >>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman" > >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > >>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote: > >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman" > >>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > >>>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >>>>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com > >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman" > >>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related > > >>>>>>>>>>> OMG, > >>>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men. > >>>>>>>>>>> :) > > >>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks > >>>>>>>>>>> work, nor what "time" is. > >>>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the > >>>>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no > >>>>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe. > >>>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20 > >>>>>>>>>>> positive feet away now. > >>>>>>>>>>> LOL > > >>>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with > >>>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman: > > >>>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to > >>>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans, > >>>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16: > > http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> Go ahead. > > >>>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives, > >>>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative > >>>>>>>> distance away from me and not be a postive distance away when > >>>>>>>> he has done so. :) > > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr > >>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > >>>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or > >>>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement > >>>>>>> then their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or > >>>>>>> negative direction their spanky, does that make any logical > >>>>>>> sense to you sir. > > >>>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did > >>>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me. > >>>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no > >>>>>> "negative" motion in reality. > > >>>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is > >>>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the > >>>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a > >>>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the > >>>>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in > >>>>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend > >>>>>>> move in a negative or positive direction. > > >>>>>> People move postive distances always. > >>>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative > >>>>>> distance. > >>>>>> Again, > >>>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not > >>>>>> move a positive 100 yds away. > > >>>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry > >>>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to > >>>>>> move postive nor negative to get there. > >>>>>> :) > > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr > >>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > >>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving > >>>>> away from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is > >>>>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers > >>>>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out > >>>>> nut sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you > >>>>> at that same hundred feet. > > >>>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not > >>>> have. > >>>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can > >>>> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing > >>>> the other way. > >>>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive > >>>> distance > >>>> to begin with. > >>>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative > >>>> distance that does not truly exist in reality. > >>>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I > >>>> will then have -4 apples? > > >>>> The fact of the whole thing is... > >>>> There are no "physical" negatives. > > >>>> -- > >>>> James M Driscoll Jr > >>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > >>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > >>>> - Show quoted text - > > >>> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured > >>> in postive or negatives only distance and time > > >> There is no "movement" "IN" time. > >> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension. > >> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such > >> movement with an abstract dimension known as time. > >> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words > >> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be > >> physical when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the > >> physical only. > > >> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical > >> mass, the counting is abstract. > >> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever > >> moved inside it ever. > >> :) > > >> -- > >> James M Driscoll Jr > >> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory > >> Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > So are you saying we donβt live and move or exsist within a space time > > continuum? > > Correct, we "exist" in space and we invented time to count and measure > our motion and time our existance in "space".- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - well then since we invented time and you said we exist in space then spance and time exist together so your arguing with you self on what I have already said.
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