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Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH

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From: rustyjames777
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:28
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On Sep 10, 10:08Β am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
wrote:
> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sep 10, 9:30 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> > wrote:
> >> rustyjames...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Sep 10, 8:57 am, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Sep 10, 8:13 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>> extremesoundandli...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 7:56 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Dirk Van de moortel wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> a440e074-b399-496f-b9f2-57da0a306...@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 10, 5:26 am, "Spaceman"
> >>>>>>>>>> <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLCOizNSLI&feature=related
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> OMG,
> >>>>>>>>>>> Two either complete morons or just con men.
> >>>>>>>>>>> :)
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cox the moron that does not understand how clocks
> >>>>>>>>>>> work, nor what "time" is.
> >>>>>>>>>>> A Simple dingleberry that can not follow the history of the
> >>>>>>>>>>> clock. and Max Tegmark that does not understand there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>> "real" negatives in the universe.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ask Max to move negative 20 feet away and prove he is not 20
> >>>>>>>>>>> positive feet away now.
> >>>>>>>>>>> LOL
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yet both morons become geniuses when you compare them with
> >>>>>>>>>> Brian Greene, Einsteiniana's Showman:
>
> >>>>>>>>> I bet you don't have the guts, nor the ability to explain to
> >>>>>>>>> Spaceman, one of your greatest and most intelligent fans,
> >>>>>>>>> that (-4) * (-4) is not -16:
>
> http://users.telenet.be/vdmoortel/dirk/Physics/Fumbles/Dingbat.html
>
>
>
>
>
> >>>>>>>>> Go ahead.
>
> >>>>>>>> Poor Dirk, he does not get that there are no real negatives,
> >>>>>>>> and he still has not proven that he can move a negative
> >>>>>>>> distance away from me and not be a postive distance away when
> >>>>>>>> he has done so. :)
>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> >>>>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>> if the medium your standing on is traveling in a positive or
> >>>>>>> negative direction faster than any direction of your movement
> >>>>>>> then their is no way to move on that medium in a positive or
> >>>>>>> negative direction their spanky, does that make any logical
> >>>>>>> sense to you sir.
>
> >>>>>> Please move negtively 100 yds away from me and prove you did
> >>>>>> not actually move a postive 100 yds away from me.
> >>>>>> Take your "negative" motion and get rid of it, there is no
> >>>>>> "negative" motion in reality.
>
> >>>>>>> for instance if your on a train traveling and the train is
> >>>>>>> traveling at 100 miles an hour and your friend with you on the
> >>>>>>> train steps in front or behind you your still moving in a
> >>>>>>> positive direction even if he steps away from you because of the
> >>>>>>> movement of the train .only if you exceed 100 miles an hour in
> >>>>>>> the direction of the trains forward path can you or your friend
> >>>>>>> move in a negative or positive direction.
>
> >>>>>> People move postive distances always.
> >>>>>> The directions change, but they never truly move a negative
> >>>>>> distance.
> >>>>>> Again,
> >>>>>> Please move 100 yds away from me and then prove you did not
> >>>>>> move a positive 100 yds away.
>
> >>>>>> Take your negative motion and shove it Einsteins dingleberry
> >>>>>> collector, since you are so close to it you won't even have to
> >>>>>> move postive nor negative to get there.
> >>>>>> :)
>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> >>>>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>> yes in your frame and my of refrance between you and me moving
> >>>>> away from each other in any direction only a mesurable distance is
> >>>>> achived whether it was positive or negative depends on the veiwers
> >>>>> frame of refrance. can you argue with that with out blowing out
> >>>>> nut sack. why couldn't I have moved a negative distance from you
> >>>>> at that same hundred feet.
>
> >>>> Because you are giving "negative" direction a "reality" it does not
> >>>> have.
> >>>> Observers can not determine a "true" negative anymore than they can
> >>>> prove east is always to the right yet to the left for others facing
> >>>> the other way.
> >>>> You can not move negative distances without moving a positive
> >>>> distance
> >>>> to begin with.
> >>>> Observer "trickery" is just that... "trickery" to allow a negative
> >>>> distance that does not truly exist in reality.
> >>>> Can you also take away 5 apples from me when I only have 1 so I
> >>>> will then have -4 apples?
>
> >>>> The fact of the whole thing is...
> >>>> There are no "physical" negatives.
>
> >>>> --
> >>>> James M Driscoll Jr
> >>>> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> >>>> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>> I agree but movement through a space time contenium is not mesured
> >>> in postive or negatives only distance and time
>
> >> There is no "movement" "IN" time.
> >> Time is an abstract dimension, not a physical dimension.
> >> You move in the physical dimensions of space, and you time such
> >> movement with an abstract dimension known as time.
> >> "spacetime" and "space-time" and anything that puts both words
> >> together is complete utter scifi that is allowing "time" to be
> >> physical when it is not physical at all and is abstracted from the
> >> physical only.
>
> >> A clock is a counting device, it counts the motion of a physical
> >> mass, the counting is abstract.
> >> Time is not a physical dimension and not one person has ever
> >> moved inside it ever.
> >> :)
>
> >> --
> >> James M Driscoll Jr
> >> Creator of the Clock Malfunction Theory
> >> Spaceman- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > So are you saying we don’t live and move or exsist within a space time
> > continuum?
>
> Correct, we "exist" in space and we invented time to count and measure
> our motion and time our existance in "space".- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

well then since we invented time and you said we exist in space then
spance and time exist together so your arguing with you self on what I
have already said.
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Subject: Re: EINSTEINIANA: DISCUSSIONS IN ENGLISH AND FRENCH
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