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Article #712Re: RELATIVITY INCOMPATIBLE WITH QUANTUM MECHANICS OR WITH ITSELF?
From: Androcles
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:44
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:44
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"G. L. Bradford" <glbrad01@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:l9ydnfv98YrfawbWnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@insightbb.com... > > "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message > news:4B9BABEC.17AEDEF9@hate.spam.net... >> Pentcho Valev wrote: >> [snip 138 lines of crap] >> >> If GR is "compatible" with QFT, the claimant is an idiot. >> >> Newton >> c=infinity G=G h=0 >> Special Relativity >> c=c G=0 h=0 >> General Relativity >> c=c G=G h=0 >> Quantum mechanics >> c=infinity G=0 h=h >> Quantum field theory >> c=c G=0 h=h >> >> General Relativity's physical systems are always spatially separable >> into independent components. Systems of three or more particles >> require cluster separability (macroscopic locality). When the system >> is separated into subsystems, the overall mathematical description >> must reduce to descriptions of the subsystems. This is vital in >> scattering problems with two or more fragments. >> >> Quantum mechanics allows entangled states (superpositions of product >> states) that require a fundamental irresolvable connection within >> readily demonstrated physical systems (two-slit diffraction, the >> Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox). Macroscopic locality is violated: >> Measuring the state of one slit in a double slit experiment alters the >> observed diffraction pattern to single slit patterns (quantum eraser >> experiments). >> >> Relativistic and quantum views are incommensurable. >> >> General Relativity models continuous spacetime, going beyond conformal >> symmetry (scale independence) to symmetry under all smooth coordinate >> transformations - general covariance (the stress-energy tensor >> embodying local energy and momentum) - resisting quantization. >> General Relativity is invariant under transformations of the >> diffeomorphism group. General Relativity predicts evolution of an >> initial system state with arbitrary certainty. >> >> Quantum mechanics' observables display discrete states. Heisenberg's >> Uncertainty Principle limits knowledge about conjugate variables in a >> system state, disallowing exact prediction of its evolution. >> >> Relativistic and quantum views are incommensurable. >> >> idiot >> >> -- >> Uncle Al > > =================== > > Jives with Chaos Theory, The word you want is "jibe". "It seems that Light is propagated in time, spending in its passage from the sun to us about seven Minutes of time:" -- DEFIN. II of Opticks Or, A Treatise of the Reflections, Refractions, Inflections and Colours of Light - Sir Isaac Newton. "the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an infinitely great velocity" --� 4. Physical Meaning of the Equations Obtained in Respect to Moving Rigid Bodies and Moving Clocks -- ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein Schwartz lies. He is the idiot and a shithead.
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