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Article #713Re: RELATIVITY INCOMPATIBLE WITH QUANTUM MECHANICS OR WITH ITSELF?
From: G. L. Bradford
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:12
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:12
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"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics_v> wrote in message news:14Tmn.310842$yV6.1232@newsfe27.ams2... > > "G. L. Bradford" <glbrad01@insightbb.com> wrote in message > news:l9ydnfv98YrfawbWnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@insightbb.com... >> >> "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message >> news:4B9BABEC.17AEDEF9@hate.spam.net... >>> Pentcho Valev wrote: >>> [snip 138 lines of crap] >>> >>> If GR is "compatible" with QFT, the claimant is an idiot. >>> >>> Newton >>> c=infinity G=G h=0 >>> Special Relativity >>> c=c G=0 h=0 >>> General Relativity >>> c=c G=G h=0 >>> Quantum mechanics >>> c=infinity G=0 h=h >>> Quantum field theory >>> c=c G=0 h=h >>> >>> General Relativity's physical systems are always spatially separable >>> into independent components. Systems of three or more particles >>> require cluster separability (macroscopic locality). When the system >>> is separated into subsystems, the overall mathematical description >>> must reduce to descriptions of the subsystems. This is vital in >>> scattering problems with two or more fragments. >>> >>> Quantum mechanics allows entangled states (superpositions of product >>> states) that require a fundamental irresolvable connection within >>> readily demonstrated physical systems (two-slit diffraction, the >>> Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox). Macroscopic locality is violated: >>> Measuring the state of one slit in a double slit experiment alters the >>> observed diffraction pattern to single slit patterns (quantum eraser >>> experiments). >>> >>> Relativistic and quantum views are incommensurable. >>> >>> General Relativity models continuous spacetime, going beyond conformal >>> symmetry (scale independence) to symmetry under all smooth coordinate >>> transformations - general covariance (the stress-energy tensor >>> embodying local energy and momentum) - resisting quantization. >>> General Relativity is invariant under transformations of the >>> diffeomorphism group. General Relativity predicts evolution of an >>> initial system state with arbitrary certainty. >>> >>> Quantum mechanics' observables display discrete states. Heisenberg's >>> Uncertainty Principle limits knowledge about conjugate variables in a >>> system state, disallowing exact prediction of its evolution. >>> >>> Relativistic and quantum views are incommensurable. >>> >>> idiot >>> >>> -- >>> Uncle Al >> >> =================== >> >> Jives with Chaos Theory, > > > The word you want is "jibe". > > "It seems that Light is propagated in time, spending in its passage from > the sun to us about seven Minutes of time:" -- DEFIN. II of Opticks Or, > A Treatise of the Reflections, Refractions, Inflections and Colours of > Light - Sir Isaac Newton. > > > "the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an > infinitely great velocity" --� 4. Physical Meaning of the Equations > Obtained in Respect to Moving Rigid Bodies and Moving Clocks > -- ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein > > Schwartz lies. He is the idiot and a shithead. ====================== Yes, jibes! GLB ======================
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