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Re: RELATIVITY INCOMPATIBLE WITH QUANTUM MECHANICS OR WITH ITSELF?

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From: G. L. Bradford
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 22:12
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"Androcles" <Headmaster@Hogwarts.physics_v> wrote in message 
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> "G. L. Bradford" <glbrad01@insightbb.com> wrote in message 
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>> "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message 
>> news:4B9BABEC.17AEDEF9@hate.spam.net...
>>> Pentcho Valev wrote:
>>> [snip 138 lines of crap]
>>>
>>> If GR is "compatible" with QFT, the claimant is an idiot.
>>>
>>> Newton
>>> c=infinity G=G h=0
>>> Special Relativity
>>> c=c        G=0 h=0
>>> General Relativity
>>> c=c        G=G h=0
>>> Quantum mechanics
>>> c=infinity G=0 h=h
>>> Quantum field theory
>>> c=c        G=0 h=h
>>>
>>> General Relativity's physical systems are always spatially separable
>>> into independent components. Systems of three or more particles
>>> require cluster separability (macroscopic locality).  When the system
>>> is separated into subsystems, the overall mathematical description
>>> must reduce to descriptions of the subsystems.  This is vital in
>>> scattering problems with two or more fragments.
>>>
>>> Quantum mechanics allows entangled states (superpositions of product
>>> states) that require a fundamental irresolvable connection within
>>> readily demonstrated physical systems (two-slit diffraction, the
>>> Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox).  Macroscopic locality is violated:
>>> Measuring the state of one slit in a double slit experiment alters the
>>> observed diffraction pattern to single slit patterns (quantum eraser
>>> experiments).
>>>
>>> Relativistic and quantum views are incommensurable.
>>>
>>> General Relativity models continuous spacetime, going beyond conformal
>>> symmetry (scale independence) to symmetry under all smooth coordinate
>>> transformations - general covariance (the stress-energy tensor
>>> embodying local energy and momentum) - resisting quantization.
>>> General Relativity is invariant under transformations of the
>>> diffeomorphism group.  General Relativity predicts evolution of an
>>> initial system state with arbitrary certainty.
>>>
>>> Quantum mechanics' observables display discrete states. Heisenberg's
>>> Uncertainty Principle limits knowledge about conjugate variables in a
>>> system state, disallowing exact prediction of its evolution.
>>>
>>> Relativistic and quantum views are incommensurable.
>>>
>>> idiot
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Uncle Al
>>
>> ===================
>>
>>  Jives with Chaos Theory,
>
>
> The word you want is "jibe".
>
> "It seems that Light is propagated in time, spending in its passage from
> the sun to us about seven Minutes of time:" -- DEFIN. II of Opticks Or,
> A Treatise of  the Reflections, Refractions, Inflections and Colours of
> Light - Sir Isaac Newton.
>
>
> "the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an
> infinitely great velocity" --� 4. Physical Meaning of the Equations
> Obtained in Respect to Moving Rigid Bodies and Moving Clocks
> -- ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein
>
> Schwartz lies. He is the idiot and a shithead.

======================

  Yes, jibes!

GLB

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