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Article #7140Re: Are SR effects real or not? Simplified case.
From: Dirk Van de moortel
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:36
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:36
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PD <TheDraperFamily@gmail.com> wrote in message 853cb7cc-e111-4c76-9e2d-ddd02cb16f76@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com > On Jul 19, 12:27 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: [snip] >> Is the length of the trapped pole "real" or "projected" or "measured" >> or "proper" or "physical"? Zombie Draper thinks the length is just 40m >> or even less and that's it. The reason is that zombie Draper moves to >> the trapped pole, measures it carefully and.....40m or even less. > > Heavens no! I would never dream of jumping from frame to frame and > expect to see the same answer. Length is a frame-dependent quantity, > just like momentum! I wouldn't say the momentum of a pole is 850 kg*m/ > s, and then jump to the frame of the pole and expect to still see a > momentum of 850 kg*m/s. That would be ... idiotic. > > Whoops. Did I say something that would offend? Autistics and imbeciles CANNOT be offended, nor can they feel embarrassment. They don't know the concepts. Those who are capable of taking offence, have left this place a long time ago. Dirk Vdm
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