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Re: EXPERIMENTAL ARGUMENTS AGAINST SPECIAL RELATIVITY?

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From: Androcles
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 11:34
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"Danny Milano" <milanodanny@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 12, 2:42 am, PD <TheDraperFam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 8:58 am, Danny Milano <milanoda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > But you said earlier that there is no way to know whether time,
> > length distort or it is just some misunderstood additional
> > newtonian parameters which made it that way. What is
> > really the case?
>
> No, what I said is that some *cranks* think that way, that Newtonian
> physics is fine if we would only find the right forces to include in
> Newton's equations of motion. This is based on a rather naive
> presumption that Newton's laws can fit *any* phenomenon, if the right
> parameters are put in. This turns out to be decidedly NOT the case,
> which a little bit of concentrated investigation will prove out. There
> are a number of things that are seen in nature which are *impossible*
> to generate in Newtonian mechanics, even if tricked-out.
>
> PD

It seems that anti-relativists would go to any length to
debunk time dilation, length contraction at the cost of
even weirder mechanisms. In your years of experience
with them. Do yo think anti-relativists are purely newtonian?
Or do anti-relativists still believe in quantum mechanics "now you
see it, now you don't" foundations? Because if anti-relativists
are quantum followers. They could propose creatures
that can control quantum probability (call it fairies)
that can create the same predictions and observations as
time dilation, length contraction in physical stuff. This
is the only way I think they can explain the same relativistic
experiments. But if anti-relativists don't believe in fairies
and they don't think time and length can distort and just
believe in absolute space and absolute time, there seems
no way to pull off those SR, GR experimental stunts, isn't it...
unless anti-relativists are aetherists. Are they? In essence,
how many percentage approximately of anti-relativists
believe in quantum mechanics and how many percentage
approx. believe in the aether and how many percentage
believe in neither of them. I'd like to have rough idea of
how their brains work.

Danny

Why not ask them instead of the idiot PD?
Oh wait... that would too easy, right?
Go on, ask a thief how a copper's mind works.
Idiot.
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