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Article #7196Re: Request for Review of a pre-print book titled, "Fundamental Nature of Matter and Fields"
From: BURT
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:00
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:00
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On Jun 23, 1:40 pm, lith...@nbnet.nb.ca wrote: > On Jun 23, 2:12 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > wrote: > > > > > > > lith...@nbnet.nb.ca wrote: > > > On Jun 23, 1:20 pm, "Spaceman" <space...@yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> > > > wrote: > > >> lith...@nbnet.nb.ca wrote: > > >>> Dale > > >>> I know you probably wont listen but here goes anyhow. > > >>> Try asking yourself what would happen if you had a space ship > > >>> traveling near the speed of light and it also had a spinning wheel > > >>> whose edges were to also be traveling near light speed.Would our > > >>> space ship now be traveling with a wheel on board with its edges now > > >>> traveling twice the speed of light to our prospective. > > >>> Or wold it push the space ship backwards so as to avoid the edges of > > >>> the wheel going at twice the speed of light. > > > >> What? > > >> Do you think FTL has been proven impossible so > > >> we better not allow such? > > >> You better check the proof, the fact is no proof has been > > >> made at all about FTL being impossible. > > > > Hi Spaceman > > > Dale Actually some of the main parts of that alternative theory I so > > > often post on actually dose argue for the possibility's of FTL. > > > Even argues that it must happen naturally in some parts of the > > > universe where white holes must exist for the theory to be valid. > > > Still haven't been able to figure out the details to actually be able > > > to make a portable wormhole that would make this sort of thing > > > possible.Got some clues however and was working on the idea that if > > > negative energy behaves in the opposite way with centrifugal force.For > > > example spin matter hard enough it always flies apart but if negative > > > energy exists and behaves the opposite way then there is no limit to > > > how much energy you can put in to spinning a bit of it as it just > > > clumps together with more and more force.Never mind that it spins in > > > reverse etc. > > > The first thing you must do is forget about relativity, > > wormholes, time travel, and all that nasty stuff that relativity > > can summon up from space-time curvature. > > and no white holes either BTW. > > And Black holes are nothing like relativity states they are. > > No worm holes, no bending of space-time etc.. > > > >>> Or will one side of the wheel contract and display a slower time so > > >>> we don't have these contradictions. > > >>> Point I am trying to make if that if you don't have rubber rulers > > >>> and broken clocks you end up with other absurdities that are worse. > > >>> At least the present absurdity's are somewhat tested and reasonably > > >>> true there is just a lot of missing details. > > >>> Dale > > > >> What is absurd about 2 times the speed of light? > > >> What is absurd about c+c=2c? > > >> Is basic algebra absurd? > > >> and Why do you call me Dale? > > >> As I said, > > >> the only reason they use rubber rulers is so nature and some > > >> of thier own bullshit about time dilation does not violate > > >> the precious house of cards they have built. > > > > In this case it would be an even worse house of cards if we didn't > > > have it.But yes they do have some pretty ridiculous stuff stated as > > > fact.For just one example the whole stuff about singularity's touted > > > as fact or at least implied as fact should only have been stated as > > > hypothesis.To much else to go into theoretical physics is full of > > > nonsense or some approximation of nonsense implied as fact. > > > No, > > the Newtonian/Eucdlidian house is not built from cards > > like Relativity is. > > It is built from basic math and geometry that will make > > it stand for a long time to come. > > Not "warped space-time" math that can not even > > compare to the Euclidian 3D reality that is all around us. > > > >> But of course, nature will blow it down sooner or later. > > >> Simply because nature seems to think 1+1 does equal 2. > > >> and if c can =1.. > > >> c can be doubled no problem if a smart enough technology > > >> comes forward to do so.. > > >> :) > > > > It can be doubled and tripled etc but to do that you need a bubble of > > > space where the speed of light is also increased by the same amount. > > > Dale > > > No, > > lightspeed has nothing to do with the physical "speed" of other objects. > > It only has to do with how they would be viewed. > > Just as the speed of sound only has to do with the hearing > > of objects, not the actual speed of the objects. > > Take a closer look, the speed of light is the speed of time. > Try imagining a clock who's ticks involve the light going a certain > distance and returning then notice how you cant change anything else > without also changing everything else by the same amount.Even if time > in our universe changed it would all look the same locally. > Its a reasonable guess that even a metal rod thats made up of > particles will be in some ways just like tiny little boxes of light > because of the way that all quantum particles always have speed of > light and time dependencies that are in some ways not so different > from the light clock. > You should look over my other postings but to benefit you would need > to keep an open mind. > By the way if there is no black holes and no anything else in your > list either what exactly do you believe in. > Dale > > > > > -- > > James M Driscoll Jr > > Spaceman- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Time is passing slightly slower than the speed of light for moving matter in gravity dale. Matter and space's Gamma is above one. Mitch Raemsch
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