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Re: VIOLATION OF THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS

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From: dedanoe
Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:21
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On Oct 1, 7:56 am, Helmut Wabnig <....  .--  .-   -...  -.  ..  --.
@ .-  ---  -. dot .-  - > wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:25:05 -0700, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> >http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html
> >"When exposed to a high-voltage electric field, water in two beakers
> >climbs out of the beakers and crosses empty space to meet, forming the
> >water bridge. The liquid bridge, hovering in space, appears to the
> >human eye to defy gravity."
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> >In a strong electrical field water dipoles are ordered in such a way
> >that thermal agitation of molecules causes a SPECIFIC PRESSURE inside
> >the liquid. In certain experiments this specific pressure can lift
> >water: the energy needed for lifting is in fact heat absorbed from the
> >surroundings. If lifted water is allowed to leave the field (for
> >instance, when water has been lifted between the plates of a
> >capacitor, the specific pressure could push it through a hole in one
> >of the plates), the liquid will form, ideally, an eternal waterfall
> >outside the strong field. Perhaps the device cannot be of any
> >practical use as a heat engine but still it violates the second law of
> >thermodynamics.
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> >Pentcho Valev
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> Where do you see a violation?
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> It's at best a nice trick to lift water electrostatically,
> but nowhere you gain anything in terms of energy
> or entropy.
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the second law of thermodynamics says no system can work with exactly
100% efficiency.
that contradicts the conservation laws.
when the 2nd law of TD is on duty you cannot apply the conservation
laws.
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