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Article #7373Re: Rest mass
From: rick_sobie
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:11
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:11
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On Jul 21, 11:34 pm, rick_so...@hotmail.com wrote: > > You see if you take some condensate and spin it, it reacts with the > > quantum foam, and vortices form in it. > > So even in that superfluid state, it cannot escape the effects of > > mass.http://www.physics.gatech.edu/chandra/RecentResults/VortexLattice_Bra... > > > And if that can't, if a superfluid that has no friction, can't escape > > the foams will to stay where it is in spacetime, expanding along > > outwardly, exerting force outward in all directions against its > > neighbors, which makes it want to stay put, gives it mass, which is > > what resists your mass when you accelerate, then what can escape it? > > The foam of the condensate, is reacting with foam outside of that > > condensate, with friction, and that friction is transferred to the > > foam in the condensate, causing that foam to spin, making vortices in > > the condensate. > > > So the only possible thing would be the liquid between the foam > > bubbles whatever it is. And right now I don't think we can detect it. > > Ok so there is the slight possibility, that the quantum foam of the > condensate is not acting with friction against foam outside the > condensate and transferring that friction to the foam in the > condensate but instead, just the fact that the foam in the condensate > has mass, like gyroscopic mass from its expanding, is resisting > spinning with the entire condensate. > > But what on earth is it reacting with then, to give it that stay > putness? > When there would be nothing staying put in that scenario. > It has to be relative to some stationary something, which is causing > it to spin. > You could say well its spooky action at a distance, but at this level > there is no spooky action at a distance. > Could it be waves then and not direct friction between quantum foam > bubbles? > What is weird is that it is in a lattice. > That condensate is a gazillion times bigger than one quantum foam > bubble. The foam is not spaced apart like that. > So it has to be currents and pressure in the condensate spacing out > the vortices into a loose lattice configuration. > Maybe if you spun it at ultra high speed, it would form a gazillion > vortices. > Yes and then blow up. http://tinyurl.com/2gap23 Of course. The quantum foam bubbles are expanding and sending out mini spherical waves of dark energy, just like the nucleus does in an atom. That results in the different patterns. And from that link just above... "The angular momentum of a single vortex has been measured, and found to be of the order of Planck's constant per particle" And Plank Length, is the size of one quantum foam bubble. So that tells us where it is coming from.
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