Re: Rest mass

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From: rick_sobie
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:34

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> You see if you take some condensate and spin it, it reacts with the
> quantum foam, and vortices form in it.
> So even in that superfluid state, it cannot escape the effects of
> mass.http://www.physics.gatech.edu/chandra/RecentResults/VortexLattice_Bra...
>
> And if that can't, if a superfluid that has no friction, can't escape
> the foams will to stay where it is in spacetime, expanding along
> outwardly, exerting force outward in all directions against its
> neighbors, which makes it want to stay put, gives it mass, which is
> what resists your mass when you accelerate, then what can escape it?
> The foam of the condensate, is reacting with foam outside of that
> condensate, with friction, and that friction is transferred to the
> foam in the condensate, causing that foam to spin, making vortices in
> the condensate.
>
> So the only possible thing would be the liquid between the foam
> bubbles whatever it is. And right now I don't think we can detect it.

Ok so there is the slight possibility, that the quantum foam of the
condensate is not acting with friction against foam outside the
condensate and transferring that friction to the foam in the
condensate but instead, just the fact that the foam in the condensate
has mass, like gyroscopic mass from its expanding, is resisting
spinning with the entire condensate.

But what on earth is it reacting with then, to give it that stay
putness?
When there would be nothing staying put in that scenario.
It has to be relative to some stationary something, which is causing
it to spin.
You could say well its spooky action at a distance, but at this level
there is no spooky action at a distance.
Could it be waves then and not direct friction between quantum foam
bubbles?
What is weird is that it is in a lattice.
That condensate is a gazillion times bigger than one quantum foam
bubble. The foam is not spaced apart like that.
So it has to be currents and pressure in the condensate spacing out
the vortices into a loose lattice configuration.
Maybe if you spun it at ultra high speed, it would form a gazillion
vortices.
Yes and then blow up.

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