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Article #7403Re: question: concept of photon wavelength
From: Jeckyl
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:02
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:02
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"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1184675328.328746.275310@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 17, 9:59 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Tom Roberts wrote in sci.physics.relativity: >> >> > martin wrote: >> > > There is a question I have about the concept of wavelength of a >> > > photon. >> >> > A photon has no intrinsic wavelength; indeed it's not clear whether the >> > concept "wavelength" even applies to a photon. And there's also the >> > difficulty of attempting to discuss "a" photon.... >> >> Then, Roberts Roberts, discuss the textbook formula >> >> frequency = (speed of light)/(wavelength) >> >> In a gravitational field, the frequency varies with the gravitational >> potential V in accordance with the equation >> >> f' = f(1+V/c^2) >> >> which is confirmed experimentally. The speed of light also varies with >> the gravitational potential in accordance with Einstein's 1911 >> equation >> >> c' = c(1+V/c^2) >> >> As you can see Roberts Roberts, f'=f(1+V/c^2) and c'=c(1+V/c^2) are >> consistent. However you say Einstein's 1911 equation c'=c(1+V/c^2) is >> wrong but never give the correct equation. Why Roberts Roberts? Is >> this some grand secret between hypnotists in Einstein criminal cult? >> >> Pentcho Valev > > ----------- > and i n addition > photon ave loength A photon as a particle doesn't have a well-defined length as such .. but due to wave/particle duality, its wave does have a wavelength and frequency. > is th emsot simply todetect ecperimentally > and th most simple*and acurate * indentity to > measuere > waht else can you demand from a physical entity > is there another propertyof the photon > that is more acurately defined and tested ?? When it is a wave, it has wavelength and frequency .. as a particle it doesn't. Sorta. But that's all in the fuzzy land of quantum physics. We do know that: a photon has energy E = hf a photon has momentum p = hf/c a photon has spin = 1 a photon has charge = 0 a photon has mass = 0
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