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Article #7407Re: Rest mass
From: BURT
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:06
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 04:06
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On Jul 16, 6:10 pm, "N:dlzc D:aol T:com \(dlzc\)" <d...@aol.com> wrote: > Dear BURT: > > "BURT" <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:1184620136.419350.260440@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > ... > > > Rest mass should be considered the fundamental > > mass. But binding energy confuses this. > > It is a label. Do not spend a lot of time finding out how many > nagels can dance on the head of that particular pin. > > > A proton or neutron outside the nucleus has more > > mass than inside. A bound proton or neutron has > > less mass. > > No, the *system* has less mass. The individual components have > not fundamentally changed. Define system. Mitch Raemsch Burt Schwarzkauf Which mass is to be considered fundamental? the mass inside or outside? The mass of a bound nucleon or a free one? > > Mass is not some immutable substance that we really need mythical > words attached to it. If you form a certain configuration, > photons are released, and the resultant "system that stays at > rest" has less mass. > > David A. Smith
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