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"Paul Cardinale" <pcardinale@volcanomail.com> wrote in message news:1167795780.694882.237800@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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| Sorcerer wrote:
| > "Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message news:rvflp2ltoun34hcs762k0k596o7b5bu77h@4ax.com...
| > | On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:01:13 GMT, Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
| > | wrote:
| > |
| > | >Wolfgang G. Gasser wrote:
| > | >> Two distant observers with each a (transversal) LIGHT CLOCK orbit at a
| > | >> constant distance around their common center (assumed at rest).
| > | >>
| > | >> Special relativity postulates that the light beams in both light clocks
| > | >> propagate at c relative to both (almost inertially moving) observers.
| > | >
| > | >That is the key point -- these observers are NOT moving inertially. The
| > | >approximation is important (see below), and negates your claims.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | >> This requires that for each observer the clock rate of the opposite clock
| > | >> CAN be lower than the clock rate of his own clock.
| > | >> Because of symmetry and unchanging distance, clock rate CANNOT differ.
| > | >
| > | >The error is in your gedanken, not in SR itself.
| > | >
| > | >For approximately inertial motion, the basic equations of SR are only
| > | >APPROXIMATELY valid. You ignored the approximation you, yourself, made.
| > | >
| > | >At a deeper level, however, such orbiting observers cannot be treated as
| > | >inertial observers, because a circle is different topologically from a
| > | >line. In SR's Minkowski spacetime, inertial observers move in straight
| > | >lines, not in circles, and the basic equations of SR are valid for
| > | >inertial observers and coordinates. Yes, for a very large radius a
| > | >circle is approximately a straight line for a small portion of its
| > | >circumference, but if one uses the fact it is a circle in any way, or
| > | >uses a large fraction of the circumference, then these are not inertial
| > | >observers, not even approximately.
| > |
| > | So the GPS clocks that you claim prove SR correct move in straight lines do
| > | they Snipper?
| > |
| > | ....You become more of a comedian with every post...
| >
| > He's like Dork Van de psychopath, fired from his job and
| > makes it up as he goes along.
| >
| > "The basic equations of SR are only APPROXIMATELY valid"
| 
| Liar.  

On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:01:13 GMT, Tom Roberts wrote:

"the basic equations of SR are only APPROXIMATELY valid." 

and he should know, he wrote a lot in the FAQ's.

The basic equations of NM are what the basic equations
of SR approximate to.

Fuck off, you cunt.