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Re: The Simplest Refutation of Special Relativity

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From: harry
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:45
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"jem" <xxx@xxx.xxx> wrote in message 
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> Paul Cardinale wrote:
>
>> Sorcerer wrote:
>>
>>>"Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message 
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>>>| On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:01:13 GMT, Tom Roberts 
>>><tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
>>>| wrote:
>>>|
>>>| >Wolfgang G. Gasser wrote:
>>>| >> Two distant observers with each a (transversal) LIGHT CLOCK orbit at 
>>>a
>>>| >> constant distance around their common center (assumed at rest).
>>>| >>
>>>| >> Special relativity postulates that the light beams in both light 
>>>clocks
>>>| >> propagate at c relative to both (almost inertially moving) 
>>>observers.
>>>| >
>>>| >That is the key point -- these observers are NOT moving inertially. 
>>>The
>>>| >approximation is important (see below), and negates your claims.
>>>| >
>>>| >
>>>| >> This requires that for each observer the clock rate of the opposite 
>>>clock
>>>| >> CAN be lower than the clock rate of his own clock.
>>>| >> Because of symmetry and unchanging distance, clock rate CANNOT 
>>>differ.
>>>| >
>>>| >The error is in your gedanken, not in SR itself.
>>>| >
>>>| >For approximately inertial motion, the basic equations of SR are only
>>>| >APPROXIMATELY valid. You ignored the approximation you, yourself, 
>>>made.
>>>| >
>>>| >At a deeper level, however, such orbiting observers cannot be treated 
>>>as
>>>| >inertial observers, because a circle is different topologically from a
>>>| >line. In SR's Minkowski spacetime, inertial observers move in straight
>>>| >lines, not in circles, and the basic equations of SR are valid for
>>>| >inertial observers and coordinates. Yes, for a very large radius a
>>>| >circle is approximately a straight line for a small portion of its
>>>| >circumference, but if one uses the fact it is a circle in any way, or
>>>| >uses a large fraction of the circumference, then these are not 
>>>inertial
>>>| >observers, not even approximately.
>>>|
>>>| So the GPS clocks that you claim prove SR correct move in straight 
>>>lines do
>>>| they Snipper?
>>>|
>>>| ....You become more of a comedian with every post...
>>>
>>>He's like Dork Van de psychopath, fired from his job and
>>>makes it up as he goes along.
>>>
>>>"The basic equations of SR are only APPROXIMATELY valid"
>>
>>
>> Liar.  You snipped out the first part of the sentence, leaving a
>> fragment that is misleading.
>> You are dishonest, jaw-droppingly stupid, willfully ignorance,
>> incapable of learning, extemely vulgar, and ugly; in short, you are
>> putrid vile scum.
>>

> Evidently you're only able to see the best in people.

He was badly affected by Sorcerer! 
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Subject: Re: The Simplest Refutation of Special Relativity
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 16:45:57 +0100
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