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Article #7537Re: The Simplest Refutation of Special Relativity
From: Sue...
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:38
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 20:38
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Wolfgang G. Gasser wrote: > Two distant observers with each a (transversal) LIGHT CLOCK orbit at a > constant distance around their common center (assumed at rest). > > Special relativity postulates that the light beams in both light clocks > propagate at c relative to both (almost inertially moving) observers. No... you are trying to ressurect mythology based on errors in the 1905 paper. SR postulates: "The [ ] Incompatibility of the Law of Propagation of Light with the Principle of Relativity [is only] Apparent" http://www.bartleby.com/173/7.html Abstract Einstein addressed the twin paradox in special relativity in a relatively unknown, unusual and rarely cited paper written in 1918, in the form of a dialogue between a critic and a relativist. Contrary to most textbook versions of the resolution, Einstein admitted that the special relativistic time dilation was symmetric for the twins, and he had to invoke, asymmetrically, the general relativistic gravitational time dilation during the brief periods of acceleration to justify the asymmetrical aging. Notably, Einstein did not use any argument related to simultaneity or Doppler shift in his analysis. I discuss Einstein's resolution and several conceptual issues that arise. It is concluded that Einstein's resolution using gravitational time dilation suffers from logical and physical flaws, and gives incorrect answers in a general setting. The counter examples imply the need to reconsider many issues related to the comparison of transported clocks. The failure of the accepted views and resolutions is traced to the fact that the special relativity principle formulated originally for physics in empty space is not valid in the matter-filled universe. C. S. Unnikrishnan Gravitation Group, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Homi Bhabha Road, Mumbai 400 005, India http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/dec252005/2009.pdf Time-independent Maxwell equations Time-dependent Maxwell's equations http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/lectures.html Maxwell's equations in classic electrodynamics (classic field theory)_ a) Maxwell equations (no movement), b) Maxwell equations (with moved bodies) http://www.wolfram-stanek.de/maxwell_equations.htm#maxwell_classic_extended Sue... > > This requires that for each observer the clock rate of the opposite clock > CAN be lower than the clock rate of his own clock. > > Because of symmetry and unchanging distance, clock rate CANNOT differ. > > The impossibility of mutual time dilation in this situation entails the > impossibility of a constant speed of light as a general law.
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X-Google-Thread: 10f545,dd7f3cb108988984 X-Google-Thread: 10b271,dd7f3cb108988984 X-Google-Thread: 104cdc,dd7f3cb108988984 X-Google-Thread: 103d8c,dd7f3cb108988984 X-Google-Thread: fa4c1,dd7f3cb108988984 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f545,gid10b271,gid104cdc,gid103d8c,gidfa4c1,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Sue..." <suzysewnshow@yahoo.com.au> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.philosophy.tech,de.sci.physik,fr.sci.physique Subject: Re: The Simplest Refutation of Special Relativity Date: 2 Jan 2007 12:38:13 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 68 Message-ID: <1167770293.621726.180150@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <ene0td$grh$1@atlas.ip-plus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.5.179.216 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1167770299 27950 127.0.0.1 (2 Jan 2007 20:38:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 20:38:19 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.5.179.216; posting-account=xbgYcQwAAAD2H9f4aXFXh6Dwic5_n67V