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In article <87obqc$pv$1@neptunium.btinternet.com>,
  "Damian Surr" <damian.gingermagic@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Thanks, that makes sense now.
>
> I miss understood the bit that I quoted as implying that the photon's
> were
> 'still' in space and we were just shrinking 'way' from them.

No: They're shrinking with us, it's just that, for some
reason, they're just not keeping up with us (too bright I recken).

> Now that that little nugget has settled in my head, I can continue my
> path
> towards total understanding of the Rodrian Hypothesis which I shall
> smugly
> tell my friends about as the new law of the universe.

I'd hold off issuing tickets if I were you: Einstein was God for
80 or or years, and how his statues are beginning to dawn with
ropes tied around their necks. My "suggestions" have only been
around the public eye since last Christmas. This is not the time
to be taking all this as dogma. Bark as little if you like, but
don't go around giving everybody rabies--At least not until rabies
is a more acceptable entertainment at the "right" cocktail parties.

> If they ask me
> anything about it that stumps me, then I shall come running to you for
> enlightenment again in order to put the smug expression back on my
> face when
> in their presence (that's what it's all about right!)

That's it--It's the cat feeling.

> I bow to your higher smugness

Just keep smiling, and you will disappear completely
(well, your smile will remain, of course, but)....

> Thanks again,
>
> Damian

Say, you're not the 666 Guy, are you?
Let me see your claws, I mean... your paws.

S D Rodrian
sdr@t-three.com
http://www.geocities.com/absoluterelativity

RE:

> S D Rodrian <sdrodrian@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:87nsam$iev$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> > In article <87lfd7$nmn$1@plutonium.btinternet.com>,
> >   "Damian Surr" <damian.gingermagic@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > This is a very basic
> > > question which must just come from not
> > > understanding
> > > the basic premise of your idea (I keep picking a bit more of it up
 the
> > > more
> > > posts I read), but I'm trying to think about it. One of your posts
> > > said that
> > > you most enjoy replying to idiots,
> >
> > I believe I define an idiot as one who does something
> > idiotic--And asking pertinent questions is NEVER an
> > idiotic thing (no matter how basic the questions may be).
> >
> > > so have a laugh at this stupid
> > > question
> > > and then enlighten me.
> > >
> > > From what I can grasp from this ...
> > >
> > > > > > Say that the universe of ordinary matter "shrinks" ["in
place,"
> > > > > > in our
> > > > > > experience, and never "towards" a given direction] in
relation
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > x-space [and so "moves through it"] while the photon remains
> > > > > > stuck
> > > > > > to/embedded "more-or-less" in the (approximate) "place"
at/in
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > was created (which makes it appear to us to be moving
"linearly"
> > > > > > away
> > > > > > from the "spot" in the universe of ordinary matter "where"
it
> > > > > > originated); thereby the so-called "speed of light" remains
> > > > > > constant
> > > > > > regardless of its source/origin/direction because "about"
the
> > > > > > only
> > > > > > connection a photon has with its source is "orientation"
> > > > > > [x-space is
> > > > > > expanding equally from/at all coordinates, so the only
quality
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > photon creator/source can impart unto "his" creation is an
> > > > > > orientation
> > > > > > relative to "himself" --e.g. when "you" create the photon to
 the
> > > > > > west of
> > > > > > "you" that photon will "seem" to shoot out away from your
west
> > > > > > side,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > if you create a photon to the north of you... it will then
> > > > > > "seem" to
> > > > > > shoot out away from your north side, since x-space will
always
> > > > > > take
> > > > > > "you" to be the exact center of its universe]
> > >
> > > Am I right in saying that the 'apparent' movement of light (or
'the
> > > photon')
> > > is just caused by our shrinking and the photons staying still in
their
> > > own
> > > space? So as I shirk, it looks like the photons are shooting away
 from
> > > me?
> > > That's what it sounds like you're saying, but I must have got it
> > > totally
> > > wrong, other wise light would always 'appear' to be travelling
away
> > > from me.
> > > That can't be what you're saying otherwise I couldn't do something
 as
> > > simple
> > > as shine a torch at myself. Pointing the torch at my shirt
wouldn't
> > > illuminate my shirt because would have 'shrunk' away from the
photons
> > > ..
> > > they wouldn't be able to hit me.
> > >
> > > Ok, tell me how stupid I am and what I'm missing?
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Damian
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Dear Damian, if you're stupid then I'm just as stupid as you because
> > undestanding is only half the job: Properly explaining something
> > is the other half; and so you have my apologies. Try this & see if
> > it helps:
> >
> > Take a broomstick and tape a flashlight at one end pointing towards
> > the other end. Now put that other end against your chest (so that
> > the flashlight points at your chest) and turn the flashlight on:
> >
> > The flashlight is the photon's (s') source: The photons will shoot
> > away from the flashlight--towards you!
> >
> > Although you do not see it, the broomstick has shrunk pulling you
> > towards the "place" where the flashlight "deposited" its photons
> > and way pass there: Those photon which crashed against your chest
> > are no more, and those that shot over your shoulders are now long
> > long gone past where you are (speeding) shrinking away from them.
> >
> > Hope this helps. But if still does not, then consider it from this
> > angle: Don't think of matter as shrinking but rather think of it
> > in terms of space expanding FROM EVERY IMAGINABLE coordinate: This
> > means that for all practical effects YOU (the photon source) are
> > the center of the universe. And as soon as you "push" a photon out
> > into existence... the photon will "ride expanding space" away from
> > you: If it crashes against anything standing in its way... it's
> > the death of that photon. And if it continues on into the cosmos
> > it will live as long as it doesn't crash against anything else
> > out there--so it could actually "live" for billions of years!
> >
> > And, by the way, the photons do not get stuck in "a" place (or
> > at absolute rest, they just don't shrink "as fast" as the other
forms
> > of ordinary matter. Consequently they are "left a bit behind" by
> > the rest of the universe (that "bit" = the speed of light). At my
web
> > site I speculate on what this might say about the nature of the
photon.
> >
> > (Which see.)
> >
> > S D Rodrian
> > sdr@t-three.com
> > http://members.aol.com/prebigbang
> >


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