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Article #924Re: How does the Light Move?
From: Pentcho Valev
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:42
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:42
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On Dec 18, 3:27 am, Tom Roberts <tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in sci.physics.relativity: > In our best model of light, QED, the photon is NOT a particle. Neither is it a > wave. > > There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, > Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. -- Shakespeare > > There is no expectation that words and concepts from your everyday life capture > the essence of phenomena far removed from you everyday experience. Photons and > quantum phenomena are indeed far removed (you experience light, not photons or > their quantum implications). Honest Roberts stop introducing red herrings! You know that the problem crucial for contemporary physics is: Does the speed of light depend on the speed of the light source, as Newton's emission theory of light assumes, or is it independent of the speed of the light source, as Einstein's special relativity assumes. I suggest that you return to and develop the following insights of yours: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/44abc7dbb30db6c2 John Norton: "THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts: "Sure. The fact that this one experiment is compatible with other theories does not refute relativity in any way. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev: "THE POUND-REBKA EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." Tom Roberts: "Sure. But this experiment, too, does not refute relativity. The full experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not relativity." Pentcho Valev pvalev@yahoo.com
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