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On 12/19/09 1:42 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> On Dec 18, 3:27 am, Tom Roberts<tjroberts...@sbcglobal.net>  wrote in
> sci.physics.relativity:
>> In our best model of light, QED, the photon is NOT a particle. Neither is it a
>> wave.
>>
>>          There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
>>          Than are dreamt of in your philosophy. -- Shakespeare
>>
>> There is no expectation that words and concepts from your everyday life capture
>> the essence of phenomena far removed from you everyday experience. Photons and
>> quantum phenomena are indeed far removed (you experience light, not photons or
>> their quantum implications).
>
> Honest Roberts stop introducing red herrings! You know that the
> problem crucial for contemporary physics is: Does the speed of light
> depend on the speed of the light source, as Newton's emission theory
> of light assumes, or is it independent of the speed of the light
> source, as Einstein's special relativity assumes. I suggest that you
> return to and develop the following insights of yours:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/msg/44abc7dbb30db6c2
>
> John Norton: "THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH
> AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE."
>
> Tom Roberts: "Sure. The fact that this one experiment is compatible
> with other theories does not refute relativity in any way. The full
> experimental record refutes most if not all emission theories, but not
> relativity."
>
> Pentcho Valev: "THE POUND-REBKA EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN
> EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE."
>
> Tom Roberts: "Sure. But this experiment, too, does not refute
> relativity. The full experimental record refutes most if not all
> emission theories, but not relativity."
>
> Pentcho Valev
> pvalev@yahoo.com


Hey Pentcho, are not these following words your?

> Premise: The wavelength is determined by the light source and cannot
> depend on the movements of the observer.
>
> Premise: (frequency)=(speed of light)/(wavelength)
>
> Conclusion: If the observer is initially at rest relative to but then
> starts moving towards the light source, the frequency (Doppler effect)
> and THE SPEED OF LIGHT INCREASE.