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Article #980Re: WHY EINSTEIN STILL RULES
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:55
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:55
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On Nov 19, 7:15 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7271/full/462291a.html > NATURE: "Burst of support for relativity. Light from a distant gamma- > ray burst backs up a key prediction of Albert Einstein's theory of > relativity — that photon speed is the same regardless of energy." > > 1. Observations suggest that high-energy photons travel through space > slower than low-energy photons. > > 2. Einsteinians (Lee Smolin and brothers in this case) advance > theories predicting that that high-energy photons travel slower than > low-energy photons. Career, money etc. > > 3. A single observation suggests that high-energy photons travel > through space slower than low-energy photons but the difference in > speed is small. > > 4. Einsteinians (Lee Smolin and brothers again) discover "a key > prediction of Albert Einstein's theory of relativity — that photon > speed is the same regardless of energy". > > 5. Einsteinians (Lee Smolin and brothers again) make a second > discovery: the single observation confirms the "key prediction of > Albert Einstein's theory of relativity" and therefore there is "burst > of support for relativity" in the world. > > 6. The journal Nature immediately publishes Lee Smolin and brothers' > discoveries. Career, money etc. for Nature editors, Lee Smolin, > brothers and sycophants. > > Pentcho Valev wrote: > > In Einsteiniana: > > http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327246.800-13-more-things-mag... > "In 2005, researchers at the MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in > the Canary Islands were studying gamma-ray bursts emitted by the black > hole in the centre of the Markarian 501 galaxy, half a billion light > years away. The burst's high-energy gamma rays arrived at the > telescope 4 minutes later than the lower-energy rays. Both parts of > the spectrum should have been emitted at the same time. So is the time > lag due to the high-energy radiation travelling slower through space? > That wouldn't make sense: it would contravene one of the central > tenets of special relativity. According to Einstein, all > electromagnetic radiation always travels through vacuum at the cosmic > speed limit the speed of light. The energy of the radiation should be > absolutely irrelevant." > > http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/11/04/gamma-rays-einstein.html > "At stake was nothing less than a foundation of modern physics -- > Einstein's theory of relativity, which posits that all electromagnetic > radiation travels at the same speed, whether low-energy radio waves, > high-energy X-rays or gamma rays, or any wavelength in between. (...) > After a journey of more than 7 billion light-years, however, the gamma > ray photons arrived nine-tenths of a second apart on May 9, 2009 -- > not enough of a lag to account for the theorized quantum effects. > "Einstein, at this point, wins again," Michelson said." > > http://live.psu.edu/story/42610 > "Of the many gamma-ray photons detected by Fermi from the 2.1-second > burst, two had energies differing by a million times. Yet after > traveling some seven billion years, the pair of photons arrived just > nine-tenths of a second apart. "This measurement eliminates any > approach to a new theory of gravity that predicts a strong energy- > dependent change in the speed of light," Michelson said. The long- > distance experiment showed that "To one part in 100 million billion, > these two photons traveled at the same speed. "EINSTEIN STILL RULES," > Michelson said." > > In Big Brother's world: > > http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ > George Orwell: "In the end the Party would announce that two and two > made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that > they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their > position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the > very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their > philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was > terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, > but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two > and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the > past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist > only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?" > > Breathtaking news in Big Brother's world: In 2005, researchers at the > MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in the Canary Islands added two > and two and did not get five, but then Stanford University's Peter > Michelson, the lead scientist on the Fermi Large Area Telescope, added > two and two again and did not get five either. "BIG BROTHER STILL > RULES," Michelson said. > > Pentcho Valev > pva...@yahoo.com He found the principle behind the LASER. He could have won a nobel prize for that.
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