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Article #989Re: WHY EINSTEIN STILL RULES
From: Don Stockbauer
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:42
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:42
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On Nov 14, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Nov 14, 12:14 pm, Don Stockbauer <don.stockba...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 14, 9:41 am, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net> > > wrote: > > > > On Nov 14, 9:44 am, DonStockbauer<don.stockba...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 14, 8:26 am, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 5, 1:44 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In Einsteiniana: > > > > > > Why Einstein Rules is because when you set the speed of light = 1, > > > > > that gives the AI Loons unilimited Galactic Discourse. > > > > > > So, that's also the people who understand how actually understand > > > > > how real computers work > > > > > actually invented Digital Books, Holograms, Post ACME > > > > > Screwthreads, mp3, mpeg, PGP, > > > > > All-In-One Printers, USB, Post Vax Bit Thrashing, Distributed > > > > > Processing Software, > > > > > Flash Memory, Bi-Optical Computers, Microwave Cooling, XML, Reverse > > > > > Compilers, > > > > > Self-Replicating Machines, Atomic Clock Wristwatches, CD+rw, DVD- > > > > > rom, Cyber Batteries, > > > > > Home Broadband, Compact Flourescent Lighting, Desktop Publishing, > > > > > On-Line Publishing, > > > > > Blue Ray, HDTV, Rapid Prototyping, UAVs, Post Watt Turbines, Post > > > > > GM-nomics, > > > > > and The 21st Century, > > > > > Rather than idiot Relativity, AI, and Teleprompters to start with. > > > > > > >http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327246.800-13-more-things-mag... > > > > > > "In 2005, researchers at the MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in > > > > > > the Canary Islands were studying gamma-ray bursts emitted by the black > > > > > > hole in the centre of the Markarian 501 galaxy, half a billion light > > > > > > years away. The burst's high-energy gamma rays arrived at the > > > > > > telescope 4 minutes later than the lower-energy rays. Both parts of > > > > > > the spectrum should have been emitted at the same time. So is the time > > > > > > lag due to the high-energy radiation travelling slower through space? > > > > > > That wouldn't make sense: it would contravene one of the central > > > > > > tenets of special relativity. According to Einstein, all > > > > > > electromagnetic radiation always travels through vacuum at the cosmic > > > > > > speed limit the speed of light. The energy of the radiation should be > > > > > > absolutely irrelevant." > > > > > > >http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/11/04/gamma-rays-einstein.html > > > > > > "At stake was nothing less than a foundation of modern physics -- > > > > > > Einstein's theory of relativity, which posits that all electromagnetic > > > > > > radiation travels at the same speed, whether low-energy radio waves, > > > > > > high-energy X-rays or gamma rays, or any wavelength in between. (...) > > > > > > After a journey of more than 7 billion light-years, however, the gamma > > > > > > ray photons arrived nine-tenths of a second apart on May 9, 2009 -- > > > > > > not enough of a lag to account for the theorized quantum effects. > > > > > > "Einstein, at this point, wins again," Michelson said." > > > > > > >http://live.psu.edu/story/42610 > > > > > > "Of the many gamma-ray photons detected by Fermi from the 2.1-second > > > > > > burst, two had energies differing by a million times. Yet after > > > > > > traveling some seven billion years, the pair of photons arrived just > > > > > > nine-tenths of a second apart. "This measurement eliminates any > > > > > > approach to a new theory of gravity that predicts a strong energy- > > > > > > dependent change in the speed of light," Michelson said. The long- > > > > > > distance experiment showed that "To one part in 100 million billion, > > > > > > these two photons traveled at the same speed. "EINSTEIN STILL RULES," > > > > > > Michelson said." > > > > > > > In Big Brother's world: > > > > > > >http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/ > > > > > > George Orwell: "In the end the Party would announce that two and two > > > > > > made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that > > > > > > they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their > > > > > > position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the > > > > > > very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their > > > > > > philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was > > > > > > terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise, > > > > > > but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two > > > > > > and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the > > > > > > past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist > > > > > > only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?" > > > > > > > Breathtaking news in Big Brother's world: In 2005, researchers at the > > > > > > MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in the Canary Islands added two > > > > > > and two and did not get five, but then Stanford University's Peter > > > > > > Michelson, the lead scientist on the Fermi Large Area Telescope, added > > > > > > two and two again and did not get five either. "BIG BROTHER STILL > > > > > > RULES,"Michelson said. > > > > > > > Pentcho Valev > > > > > > pva...@yahoo.com > > > > > Them thar's sun purdy doggone hi-tech doo-hikeys, you betcha!- Hide quoted text - > > > > Well, since the only thing Relativity Bozos know about Technology > > > of any kind is 1905. The people with actual non-shit brains also > > > work on Drones, Phalanx, and Post Stooge Wright Brothers nomics > > > also. > > > I couldn't agree with you more.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Einstein brought back the aether in his Leiden lectures in the 1920's > and likened it to his curved space-time. He brought back the aether to lectures? What? In a paper bag? > > Einstein was the most superior scientist for believing in the concept. So of all the scientists believing in the aether, Einstein was the most superior?
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