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Re: WHY EINSTEIN STILL RULES

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From: BURT
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 22:34
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On Nov 14, 1:42 pm, Don Stockbauer <don.stockba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 14, 3:15 pm, BURT <macromi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Nov 14, 12:14 pm, Don Stockbauer <don.stockba...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 14, 9:41 am, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 14, 9:44 am, DonStockbauer<don.stockba...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Nov 14, 8:26 am, "zzbun...@netscape.net" <zzbun...@netscape.net>
> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > On Nov 5, 1:44 am, Pentcho Valev <pva...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > In Einsteiniana:
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> > > > > >    Why Einstein Rules is because when you set the speed of light = 1,
> > > > > >    that gives the AI Loons unilimited Galactic Discourse.
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> > > > > >    So, that's also the people who understand how actually understand
> > > > > > how real computers work
> > > > > >    actually invented Digital Books,  Holograms, Post ACME
> > > > > > Screwthreads, mp3, mpeg, PGP,
> > > > > >    All-In-One Printers,   USB, Post Vax Bit Thrashing, Distributed
> > > > > > Processing Software,
> > > > > >    Flash Memory, Bi-Optical Computers, Microwave Cooling, XML, Reverse
> > > > > > Compilers,
> > > > > >    Self-Replicating Machines, Atomic Clock Wristwatches, CD+rw, DVD-
> > > > > > rom, Cyber Batteries,
> > > > > >    Home Broadband, Compact Flourescent Lighting, Desktop Publishing,
> > > > > > On-Line Publishing,
> > > > > >    Blue Ray, HDTV, Rapid Prototyping, UAVs,  Post Watt Turbines, Post
> > > > > > GM-nomics,
> > > > > >    and The 21st Century,
> > > > > >    Rather than idiot Relativity, AI, and Teleprompters to start with.
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> > > > > > >http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327246.800-13-more-things-mag...
> > > > > > > "In 2005, researchers at the MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in
> > > > > > > the Canary Islands were studying gamma-ray bursts emitted by the black
> > > > > > > hole in the centre of the Markarian 501 galaxy, half a billion light
> > > > > > > years away. The burst's high-energy gamma rays arrived at the
> > > > > > > telescope 4 minutes later than the lower-energy rays. Both parts of
> > > > > > > the spectrum should have been emitted at the same time. So is the time
> > > > > > > lag due to the high-energy radiation travelling slower through space?
> > > > > > > That wouldn't make sense: it would contravene one of the central
> > > > > > > tenets of special relativity. According to Einstein, all
> > > > > > > electromagnetic radiation always travels through vacuum at the cosmic
> > > > > > > speed limit the speed of light. The energy of the radiation should be
> > > > > > > absolutely irrelevant."
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> > > > > > >http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/11/04/gamma-rays-einstein.html
> > > > > > > "At stake was nothing less than a foundation of modern physics --
> > > > > > > Einstein's theory of relativity, which posits that all electromagnetic
> > > > > > > radiation travels at the same speed, whether low-energy radio waves,
> > > > > > > high-energy X-rays or gamma rays, or any wavelength in between. (...)
> > > > > > > After a journey of more than 7 billion light-years, however, the gamma
> > > > > > > ray photons arrived nine-tenths of a second apart on May 9, 2009 --
> > > > > > > not enough of a lag to account for the theorized quantum effects.
> > > > > > > "Einstein, at this point, wins again," Michelson said."
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> > > > > > >http://live.psu.edu/story/42610
> > > > > > > "Of the many gamma-ray photons detected by Fermi from the 2.1-second
> > > > > > > burst, two had energies differing by a million times. Yet after
> > > > > > > traveling some seven billion years, the pair of photons arrived just
> > > > > > > nine-tenths of a second apart. "This measurement eliminates any
> > > > > > > approach to a new theory of gravity that predicts a strong energy-
> > > > > > > dependent change in the speed of light," Michelson said. The long-
> > > > > > > distance experiment showed that "To one part in 100 million billion,
> > > > > > > these two photons traveled at the same speed. "EINSTEIN STILL RULES,"
> > > > > > > Michelson said."
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> > > > > > > In Big Brother's world:
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> > > > > > >http://www.online-literature.com/orwell/1984/
> > > > > > > George Orwell: "In the end the Party would announce that two and two
> > > > > > > made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that
> > > > > > > they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their
> > > > > > > position demanded it. Not merely the validity of experience, but the
> > > > > > > very existence of external reality, was tacitly denied by their
> > > > > > > philosophy. The heresy of heresies was common sense. And what was
> > > > > > > terrifying was not that they would kill you for thinking otherwise,
> > > > > > > but that they might be right. For, after all, how do we know that two
> > > > > > > and two make four? Or that the force of gravity works? Or that the
> > > > > > > past is unchangeable? If both the past and the external world exist
> > > > > > > only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable what then?"
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> > > > > > > Breathtaking news in Big Brother's world: In 2005, researchers at the
> > > > > > > MAGIC gamma-ray telescope on La Palma in the Canary Islands added two
> > > > > > > and two and did not get five, but then Stanford University's Peter
> > > > > > > Michelson, the lead scientist on the Fermi Large Area Telescope, added
> > > > > > > two and two again and did not get five either. "BIG BROTHER STILL
> > > > > > > RULES,"Michelson said.
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> > > > > > > Pentcho Valev
> > > > > > > pva...@yahoo.com
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> > > > > Them thar's sun purdy doggone hi-tech doo-hikeys, you betcha!- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >    Well, since the only thing Relativity Bozos know about Technology
> > > >    of any kind is 1905. The people with actual non-shit brains also
> > > >    work on Drones, Phalanx, and Post Stooge Wright Brothers nomics
> > > > also.
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> > > I couldn't agree with you more.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Einstein brought back the aether in his Leiden lectures in the 1920's
> > and likened it to his curved space-time.
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> He brought back the aether to lectures?  What?  In a paper bag?
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> > Einstein was the most superior scientist for believing in the concept.
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> So of all the scientists believing in the aether, Einstein was the
> most superior?- Hide quoted text -
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No. They all were on that account but Einstein was the leader.

Mitch Raemsch
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