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On Aug 6, 2:17�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 5, 7:49 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> > On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> >>news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> >> >>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> your
> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> claim.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> assembled
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> for
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> saith
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> unto
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> fire
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> caught.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> great
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> were so
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> disciples
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> durst
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> fish
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> his
> >> >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >> >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide
> >> >>>>>>>>>> quoted
> >> >>>>>>>>>> text -
> >> >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> >> >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >> >>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> >> >>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial.
> >> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >>>>>> All kinds if cases?
> >> >>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"?
> >> >>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as
> >> >>>>> evidence
> >> >>>>> in a court case.
> >> >>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
> >> >>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics.
> >> >>>> Clever,
> >> >>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
> >> >>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
> >> >>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
> >> >>> Robert B. Winn
> >> >> It depends on what you are trying to prove.
> >> >> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and how
> >> >> could
> >> >> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular
> >> >> circumstabces?
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> >> >> --
> >> > The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has
> >> > the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". The judge
> >> > in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury.
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> >> Then you can appeal.
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> > I do appeal every time I am denied trial by jury.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> You are not a criminal, and you were not found "guilty" of anything
> The sixth amendment entitles any person accused of a criminal act a right to
> a trial by jury.
> However - you had not committed any criminal act- you were simply insane and
> required hospitalization.
> You wasted your time appealing on the grounds of the sixth amendment.
> You would have been better off trying to prove your sanity rather than
> following that line.
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Where do you get the idea that only criminals have rights in the
United States?  If nothing else, a operson accused of insanity would
have the right to a civil trial on the grounds that the amount of
money in controversy was more than twenty dollars.  An insane mperson
has not right under present interpretaiton of law to conduct his own
financial affairs.
Robert B. Winn