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On Aug 6, 2:21�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 5, 1:44 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> > On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> > On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> >> >> >>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> >> >>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >> >> >>>>>> wrote
> >> >> >>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> ...
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >> >> >>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your
> >> >> >>>>>>>> claim.
> >> >> >>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day
> >> >> >>>>>>> of
> >> >> >>>>>>> the
> >> >> >>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were
> >> >> >>>>>>> assembled
> >> >> >>>>>>> for
> >> >> >>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith
> >> >> >>>>>>> unto
> >> >> >>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >> >> >>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a
> >> >> >>>>>>> fire
> >> >> >>>>>>> of
> >> >> >>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >> >> >>>>>>> caught.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >> >> >>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were
> >> >> >>>>>>> so
> >> >> >>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the
> >> >> >>>>>>> disciples
> >> >> >>>>>>> durst
> >> >> >>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and
> >> >> >>>>>>> fish
> >> >> >>>>>>> likewise.
> >> >> >>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >> >> >>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >> >> >>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide
> >> >> >>>>>> quoted text -
> >> >> >>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> >> >> >>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >> >> >>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered
> >> >> >>> as
> >> >> >>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered
> >> >> >>> as
> >> >> >>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
> >> >> >>> Riobert B. Winn
> >> >> >> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as
> >> >> >> evidence.
> >> >> >> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern
> >> >> >> time crime or cases?
> >> >> >> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I
> >> >> >> thought.- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >> > Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that
> >> >> > precedent in American jurisprudence.
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> >> >> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is
> >> >> nil at this point.
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> >> > Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only
> >> > atheism is allowed in courtrooms.
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> >> WTF are you going on about now????
> >> What on EARTH is a statement like that supposed to mean?
> >> Do you actually have much experience with courts???
> >> What the hell would you describe as atheist evidence as opposed to normal
> >> evidence?
> >> I really have no idea what you are blabbering on about.
> >> Please explain.
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> >> > That does not mean that the Bible
> >> > is not evidence.
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> >> Evidence of WHAT, you gibbering buffoon!
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> >> >No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to
> >> > make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence.
> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> EVIDENCE OF WHAT!!!!!!
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> >> GAH! - You've got me shouting now- there's a good chance I could end up
> >> as
> >> loony as you are.
> >> Do you have any idea how frustrating you can be?
> >> There's no possible way that anyone could hold a normal, rational
> >> conversation with you - you're too far gone.- Hide quoted text -
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> > It is the same as any other book. �It is evidence of whatever is
> > written in it.
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> Written words are not evidence, and never can be evidence, fool- they are
> simply WRITTEN WORDS.
> You simply fail to understand that it is the CONTENT of those words- not the
> written words themselves, that constitutes evidence.
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> �>It is evidence that a printer made copies of the book.
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> > It is evidence of the materials that the book is made of. �Do you have
> > any understanding of what the word evidence means?
> > Robert B. Winn
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> I have more understanding of evidence, and more experience of using
> evidence, than you will ever have.
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Well, I do not think so.  You sound like a lawyer to me.
Robert B. Winn