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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:23
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On Aug 6, 2:37�am, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Aug 6, 2:39 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 5, 7:52 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > On Aug 5, 9:30 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 4, 9:22 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
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> > > > > On Aug 5, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Aug 4, 5:34 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
> > > > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
> > > > > > > <df36fbb3-4bc6-4217-93a7-eb8537d50...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
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> > > > > > > >On Aug 3, 8:56?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> > > > > > > >> >> in alt.atheism:
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> > > > > > > >> >>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
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> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> > > > > > > >> >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> > > > > > > >> >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> > > > > > > >> >>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> > > > > > > >> >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> > > > > > > >> >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> > > > > > > >> >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> > > > > > > >> >>> them, Peace be unto you.
> > > > > > > >> >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> > > > > > > >> >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> > > > > > > >> >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> > > > > > > >> >>> caught.
> > > > > > > >> >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> > > > > > > >> >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> > > > > > > >> >>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> > > > > > > >> >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
> > > > > > > >> >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> > > > > > > >> >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> > > > > > > >> >>> likewise.
> > > > > > > >> >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> > > > > > > >> >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> > > > > > > >> >> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > >> > The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. ?
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> > > > > > > >> For what kinds of cases?
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> > > > > > > >For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as
> > > > > > > >evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> > > > > > > >evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
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> > > > > > > When did you last check the rules of evidence?- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > The last time I was in court. I attempted to introduce the
> > > > > > Constitution of the United States as evidence.
> > > > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > > > Yes, the constitution was written in modern time and is not a story.
> > > > > The bible was written more than 2000 years ago and was a collection of
> > > > > tales meant to con the young into sleep.
> > > > > You do not know the significance of a constitution and a fictional
> > > > > story book.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > I said I attempted to enter the Constitution as evidence. Judges in
> > > > America today do not allow the Constitution in their police state
> > > > courts.
> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > Are you try to lie?
> > > Any one can introduce the Constitution as evidence, but this must be
> > > done by the lawyer.
> > > And you should know that the judges have much more knowledge in the
> > > Constitution than any one else?
> > > If he refuse your lawyer's request, he must have seen the
> > > irrelevance.
> > > And you lied again that the courts are police state court.- Hide quoted text -
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> > I have never hired a lawyer or been represented in court by a lawyer.
> > Citizens of the United States have the right to represent themselves
> > in court.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> Yes, but it did mean you are not a law graduate and you did not know
> about constitution, let alone the interpretation of it.
> And you refuse the right of the judge to throw out your request ?- Hide quoted text -
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The judge can do whatever he chooses.  If he declares me guilty, I
appeal the case on the grounds that I was denied trial by jury.  The
appeal takes the case to a different court.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
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