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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:26
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 5, 7:32�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 5, 6:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 4, 9:22 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 5, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 5:34 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>> <df36fbb3-4bc6-4217-93a7-eb8537d50...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. ?
>>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
>>>>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as
>>>>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
>>>>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
>>>>>>>> When did you last check the rules of evidence?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>> The last time I was in court. I attempted to introduce the
>>>>>>> Constitution of the United States as evidence.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> Yes, the constitution was written in modern time and is not a story.
>>>>>> The bible was written more than 2000 years ago and was a collection of
>>>>>> tales meant to con the young into sleep.
>>>>>> You do not know the significance of a constitution and a fictional
>>>>>> story book.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> I said I attempted to enter the Constitution as evidence. Judges in
>>>>> America today do not allow the Constitution in their police state
>>>>> courts.
>>>> Just like they do not allow independent voters to run for public office,
>>>> right? I demolished that claim. Want me to demolish this one? All I
>>>> need to do is to find ONE case wherein the Constitution was used as
>>>> evidence.
>>>> Want me to do that?
>>> You did not demolish anything. �Independent voters are prevented from
>>> running for office every way party politicians can think of to prevent
>>> them from running.
>>> That is just a fact.
>> And, as I showed, that's NOT a fact. �It's a downright, bald-faced lie.
>> � The existence of Bernie Sanders demolishes your claim.
>>
>>> As for the other matter, you would have to find a case where a police
>>> state judge allowed a defendant to refer to the Constitution or
>>> Constitutional rights.
>> Want me to do that?
>>
> Bernie Sanders is not an independent voter.  

I say he is.

> He is a political party
> member just as Joseph Lieberman is a party member.

So, you're moving the goalposts now?


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