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Article #11006Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:26
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:26
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:32�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 6:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 4, 9:22 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Aug 5, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 5:34 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism >>>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in >>>>>>>> <df36fbb3-4bc6-4217-93a7-eb8537d50...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. ? >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". >>>>>>>> When did you last check the rules of evidence?- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> The last time I was in court. I attempted to introduce the >>>>>>> Constitution of the United States as evidence. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> Yes, the constitution was written in modern time and is not a story. >>>>>> The bible was written more than 2000 years ago and was a collection of >>>>>> tales meant to con the young into sleep. >>>>>> You do not know the significance of a constitution and a fictional >>>>>> story book.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> I said I attempted to enter the Constitution as evidence. Judges in >>>>> America today do not allow the Constitution in their police state >>>>> courts. >>>> Just like they do not allow independent voters to run for public office, >>>> right? I demolished that claim. Want me to demolish this one? All I >>>> need to do is to find ONE case wherein the Constitution was used as >>>> evidence. >>>> Want me to do that? >>> You did not demolish anything. �Independent voters are prevented from >>> running for office every way party politicians can think of to prevent >>> them from running. >>> That is just a fact. >> And, as I showed, that's NOT a fact. �It's a downright, bald-faced lie. >> � The existence of Bernie Sanders demolishes your claim. >> >>> As for the other matter, you would have to find a case where a police >>> state judge allowed a defendant to refer to the Constitution or >>> Constitutional rights. >> Want me to do that? >> > Bernie Sanders is not an independent voter. I say he is. > He is a political party > member just as Joseph Lieberman is a party member. So, you're moving the goalposts now? -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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