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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:26
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 5, 7:32�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 5, 6:42 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 4, 9:36 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 4, 9:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>>>>>>>>>> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim.
>>>>>>>>> Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. If
>>>>>>>>> something exists, it can be entered into evidence. The Bible
>>>>>>>>> exists.
>>>>>>>> This post exists. This post says that unicorns exist. Therefore, this
>>>>>>>> post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. Right?
>>>>>>>> Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim?
>>>>>>> No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>>>> So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it
>>>>>>>>> cannot be entered into evidence?
>>>>>>>>> This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning
>>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>>>>>>> Um, no. And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything
>>>>>>>> about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that
>>>>>>>> tripe.
>>>>>>> One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax
>>>>>>> perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> And none in this discussion and no citation to back up this claim.
>>>>>> And yet you ascribe all atheists with the property of denying tunnel
>>>>>> exists.
>>>>>> Why is that? Could it be that you're another Liar-for-jesus?
>>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> No, it is just that knowing the way atheists are,
>>>> You have shown time and again that you have NO knowledge of the way
>>>> atheists really are.
>>>>> if an atheist tells
>>>>> me that he believes the tunnel exists, I do not believe that atheist
>>>>> is really conceding its existence, but will continue to say that the
>>>>> Bible is nothing but mythology even after being shown that it is not.
>>>> Why? Because the tunnel exists?
>>> The tunnel exists. �It is right where the Bible said a tunnel was dug
>>> as a conduit for water.
>> And what does that have to do with anything?
>>
> Well, you atheists claimed that the Bible was nothing but mythology.
> So I have gtiven you a tunnel to consider that you say is mythology.

Not equivalent.  Mythology can reference real life objects.

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