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Article #11007Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:26
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:26
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:32�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 6:42 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 4, 9:36 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" >>>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> On Aug 4, 9:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim. >>>>>>>>> Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. If >>>>>>>>> something exists, it can be entered into evidence. The Bible >>>>>>>>> exists. >>>>>>>> This post exists. This post says that unicorns exist. Therefore, this >>>>>>>> post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. Right? >>>>>>>> Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim? >>>>>>> No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth. >>>>>>>>> So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it >>>>>>>>> cannot be entered into evidence? >>>>>>>>> This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning >>>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel. >>>>>>>> Um, no. And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything >>>>>>>> about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that >>>>>>>> tripe. >>>>>>> One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax >>>>>>> perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides. >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>> And none in this discussion and no citation to back up this claim. >>>>>> And yet you ascribe all atheists with the property of denying tunnel >>>>>> exists. >>>>>> Why is that? Could it be that you're another Liar-for-jesus? >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> No, it is just that knowing the way atheists are, >>>> You have shown time and again that you have NO knowledge of the way >>>> atheists really are. >>>>> if an atheist tells >>>>> me that he believes the tunnel exists, I do not believe that atheist >>>>> is really conceding its existence, but will continue to say that the >>>>> Bible is nothing but mythology even after being shown that it is not. >>>> Why? Because the tunnel exists? >>> The tunnel exists. �It is right where the Bible said a tunnel was dug >>> as a conduit for water. >> And what does that have to do with anything? >> > Well, you atheists claimed that the Bible was nothing but mythology. > So I have gtiven you a tunnel to consider that you say is mythology. Not equivalent. Mythology can reference real life objects. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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