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Article #11010Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:33
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:33
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 6:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted >>>>>>>>>>>> text - >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial. >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases? >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"? >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence >>>>>>> in a court case. >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence? >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever, >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else. >>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence. >>>> Want me to demolish that claim, too? >>> Go ahead and try. �Show where one of these police state judges has >>> allowed the Constitution in police state court. >> So glad for your permission. >> >> United States v. Donald Fell >> Case summary: Is the Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 unconstitutional >> as per the 8th Amendment?http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/crim/usfell92402opn.pdf >> > This defendant was obviously given a trial by jury. This case does > not apply. This case most certainly applies. You asked for a case wherein the Constitution was used as evidence. The Constitution was used as evidence in this case. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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