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Article #11011Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:33
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:33
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rbwinn wrote: > On Aug 5, 7:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Aug 5, 6:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? >>>>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as >>>>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". >>>>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn >>>>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as >>>>>>>> evidence. >>>>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern >>>>>>>> time crime or cases? >>>>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I >>>>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text - >>>>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that >>>>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence. >>>>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is >>>>>> nil at this point. >>>>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only >>>>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms. >>>> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence? >>>>> That does not mean that the Bible >>>>> is not evidence. No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to >>>>> make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence. >>>> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. >>>> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence. >>>> -- >>> So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does >>> not exist. >> Um. �No. > If the Bible exists, then it is evidence. So does it exist or not? It exists, but is not evidence. -- **************************************************** * DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 * *--------------------------------------------------* * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He * * can't eat it? * ****************************************************
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