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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:37
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Steve O wrote:
> 
> 
> "DanielSan" <danielsan@speakeasy.net> wrote in message 
> news:E8adnZh0I57JjATVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 5, 1:38�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... 
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> day of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unto
>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples
>>>>>>>>>>>>> durst
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fish
>>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide
>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted
>>>>>>>>>>>> text -
>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
>>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
>>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
>>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial.
>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>> All kinds if cases?
>>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"?
>>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as 
>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>> in a court case.
>>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
>>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. 
>>>>>> Clever,
>>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
>>>>> Not today. �A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
>>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> It depends on what you are trying to prove.
>>>> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and 
>>>> how could
>>>> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular 
>>>> circumstabces?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>> The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has
>>> the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions".   The judge
>>> in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury.
>>
>> Then you can appeal.
>>
> 
> Not on those grounds he can't.
> ;-)
> 
> The only grounds for appeal he has would be to provide evidence that the 
> judgment of the three doctors who declared him insane was mistaken and 
> incorrect.
> Not much chance of that, is there?
> 

He is acting like he's the only sane one in a sea of insane people.  :-)

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