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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: mizlee
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:18
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On Aug 6, 6:37�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> Steve O wrote:
>
> > "DanielSan" <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
> >news:E8adnZh0I57JjATVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> day of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> assembled
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> unto
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a fire
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> were so
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> durst
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> fish
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide
> >>>>>>>>>>>> quoted
> >>>>>>>>>>>> text -
> >>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> >>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> >>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial.
> >>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>>>> All kinds if cases?
> >>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"?
> >>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as
> >>>>>>> evidence
> >>>>>>> in a court case.
> >>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
> >>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics.
> >>>>>> Clever,
> >>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
> >>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
> >>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
> >>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>> It depends on what you are trying to prove.
> >>>> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and
> >>>> how could
> >>>> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular
> >>>> circumstabces?
>
> >>>> --
> >>> The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has
> >>> the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". � The judge
> >>> in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury.
>
> >> Then you can appeal.
>
> > Not on those grounds he can't.
> > ;-)
>
> > The only grounds for appeal he has would be to provide evidence that the
> > judgment of the three doctors who declared him insane was mistaken and
> > incorrect.
> > Not much chance of that, is there?
>
> He is acting like he's the only sane one in a sea of insane people. �:-)
>
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> * � � � � �DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 � � � � �*
> *--------------------------------------------------*
> * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He *
> * can't eat it? � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � � �*
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It's been a couple weeks since I even looked at this thread, so I
decided to check in.  rbwinn is still drooling, and several of you are
still trying to engage him.  It's like trying to deal with an
Alzheimer's patient; they have their own reality, and NOTHING you can
do can get through to them - ever. Your excuse that onlookers might
become more knowledgeable by seeing what nutters are really like long
ago reached the point of diminishing returns.  Are you so locked into
this ridiculous dance you simply cannot stop?  Do you really think the
looney will "win" if he has the last word?  rbwinn is best left to
babble on his own - please trust me on this.
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From: mizlee <mizlee@aol.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
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