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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11014
From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:23
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mizlee wrote:
> On Aug 6, 6:37�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> Steve O wrote:
>>
>>> "DanielSan" <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote in message
>>> news:E8adnZh0I57JjATVnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net...
>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 5, 1:38 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:b869657a-8ad3-4d4d-9f10-5440569a3345@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> durst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quoted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> text -
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
>>>>>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
>>>>>>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial.
>>>>>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>>>>>> All kinds if cases?
>>>>>>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"?
>>>>>>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as
>>>>>>>>> evidence
>>>>>>>>> in a court case.
>>>>>>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
>>>>>>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics.
>>>>>>>> Clever,
>>>>>>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
>>>>>>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
>>>>>>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
>>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>>>> It depends on what you are trying to prove.
>>>>>> Why were you trying to introduce the Constitution as evidence, and
>>>>>> how could
>>>>>> it prove or disprove anything in relation to your particular
>>>>>> circumstabces?
>>>>>> --
>>>>> The sixth amendment to the Constitution says that the defendant has
>>>>> the right to trial by jury in "all criminal prosecutions". � The judge
>>>>> in my case had just denied my right to trial by jury.
>>>> Then you can appeal.
>>> Not on those grounds he can't.
>>> ;-)
>>> The only grounds for appeal he has would be to provide evidence that the
>>> judgment of the three doctors who declared him insane was mistaken and
>>> incorrect.
>>> Not much chance of that, is there?
>> He is acting like he's the only sane one in a sea of insane people. �:-)
>>
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>> * Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He *
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> 
> It's been a couple weeks since I even looked at this thread, so I
> decided to check in.  rbwinn is still drooling, and several of you are
> still trying to engage him.  It's like trying to deal with an
> Alzheimer's patient; they have their own reality, and NOTHING you can
> do can get through to them - ever. Your excuse that onlookers might
> become more knowledgeable by seeing what nutters are really like long
> ago reached the point of diminishing returns.  Are you so locked into
> this ridiculous dance you simply cannot stop?  Do you really think the
> looney will "win" if he has the last word?  rbwinn is best left to
> babble on his own - please trust me on this.

There will be a point where I will leave Winn alone in his idiocy.  It's 
coming soon.  :-)

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*          DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226          *
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* Can God create a Thai dish so spicy that even He *
* can't eat it?                                    *
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