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Article #11015Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: Don Martin
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:39
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:39
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On Aug 6, 12:13 am, "Smiler" <Smi...@Joe.King.com> wrote: > "JM" <JM20000...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:6db979c1-79a0-4d30-8eab-e33e41c81e40@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com... > On Aug 4, 10:47 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" > > > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > On Aug 5, 1:05 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > > >> > On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > >> >> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > > >> >> <rbwi...@juno.com> > > > > >> >> wrote > > > > >> >> in alt.atheism: > > > > > >> >>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > > >> >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > >> >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > > > > >> >>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> > > > > >> >>>>>> wrote > > > > >> >>>>>> in alt.atheism: > > > > >> >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> > > > > >> >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > > >> >>>>>> ... > > > > >> >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > > > > >> >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > > > > >> >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > > > > >> >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > > > > >> >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > > > > >> >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > > > > >> >>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your > > > > >> >>>> claim. > > > > >> >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of > > > > >> >>> the > > > > >> >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were > > > > >> >>> assembled for > > > > >> >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith > > > > >> >>> unto > > > > >> >>> them, Peace be unto you. > > > > >> >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a > > > > >> >>> fire of > > > > >> >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > > > > >> >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > > > > >> >>> caught. > > > > >> >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > > > > >> >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were > > > > >> >>> so > > > > >> >>> many, yet was not the net broken. > > > > >> >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the > > > > >> >>> disciples > > > > >> >>> durst > > > > >> >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > > > > >> >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and > > > > >> >>> fish > > > > >> >>> likewise. > > > > >> >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > > > > >> >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > > > > >> >> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide > > > > >> >> quoted > > > > >> >> text - > > > > > >> > The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > > > > > >> For what kinds of cases? > > > > > > For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > > > > > evidence in the monkey trial. > > > > > Robert B. Winn > > > > > All kinds if cases? > > > > You mean, "one type of case"? > > > > No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence > > > in a court case. > > > Robert B. Winn > > > Relevant evidence > > > Al > > Does the parents have to condescend to their children? > ========================================== > Is that supposed to be English? Well, he's doing the best he can. So far as I can make out what he is trying to say, it would seem he raises a moot issue: the parents, by BEING there, demonstrate their existence daily. The supernatural superspook demonstrates not, neither doth he spin, but if proof of his existence is important to him, he had better suck it up and have at it. No one else can do it as well as he, presumably, should he happen to actually exist.
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