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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

#11016
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:37
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On Aug 6, 1:49�am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
<alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 4:19 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > On Aug 5, 7:29 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > On Aug 6, 12:05 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Aug 4, 10:38 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 5, 8:52 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:54 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> > > > > > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Aug 3, 6:16 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 11:57 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 8:29 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>> On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> rights.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion,
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed.
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> atheists?
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > > > > >>>>>> - Show quoted text -
> > > > > > > > > >>>>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for
> > > > > > > > > >>>> abortion. You have lied.
> > > > > > > > > >>>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>> Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. While Josef Stalin was dictator
> > > > > > > > > >>> of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to
> > > > > > > > > >>> about five per woman.
> > > > > > > > > >>> In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are
> > > > > > > > > >>> required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first
> > > > > > > > > >>> child is born.
> > > > > > > > > >> So, you have lied.
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> > > > > > > > > > No, I did not lie.
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> > > > > > > > > You said that Al campaigned for abortion. Are you going to provide
> > > > > > > > > evidence for this?
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> > > > > > > > Sure. Ask Al if he is in favor of right to life.
> > > > > > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > > > > > What does that have to do with whether I've campaigned for legal
> > > > > > > abortions?
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> > > > > > > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > Well, I am certainly sorry if I have misjudged you, Al. I think you
> > > > > > are pro-abortion.
> > > > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > > > That is because you are pidgeon-holing people based on misinformation
> > > > > from your church.
> > > > > I am neither pro- nor anti- abortion. I think it's something for women
> > > > > to decide on. It doesn't directly effect me, and I think it
> > > > > presumptuous for men to have a say. Not an opinion, but a say.
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> > > > > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > So you are pro-abortion.
> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> > > No. I'm pro letting women make their own minds up. If asked, I would
> > > warn against it. But I'm not arrogant enough to tell women what to
> > > do.
> > > Just because you think the state should control women's bodies does
> > > not mean that my position that I (and the state) should have no say in
> > > it, is in any way pro-abortion.
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> > > So you're pro-death then?
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> > > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > > - Show quoted text -
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> > Pro-life.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> OK, I'll rephrase that.
> You're anti-woman.

What makes you think I am anti-woman?
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 06:37:52 -0700 (PDT)
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