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On Aug 6, 1:48�am, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> > On Aug 5, 1:49 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
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> >> > On Aug 4, 10:33 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
> >> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> >> On Aug 5, 8:48 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> >> >> > On Aug 3, 10:42 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
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> >> >> > <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >> >> > > On Aug 2, 11:44 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> >> >> > > > On Aug 1, 7:51 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:>
> >> >> > > > rbwinn wrote:
> >> >> > > > > > On Aug 1, 7:34 am, ben_dolan_...@reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> >> >> > > > > >> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> >> >> > > > > >>> What makes a book fiction or non-fiction is the intent of
> >> >> > > > > >>> the
> >> >> > > > > >>> author or
> >> >> > > > > >>> authors. A fiction book is an account of imaginary events.
> >> >> > > > > >> Exactly so, and THAT is why the Bible is fiction. I'm glad
> >> >> > > > > >> you
> >> >> > > > > >> understand that, you may be making progress.
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> >> >> > > > > > The proclamation of an atheist has no real power. It does
> >> >> > > > > > not
> >> >> > > > > > change
> >> >> > > > > > reality.
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> >> >> > > > > And the proclamation of a religious nutter such as yourself
> >> >> > > > > has
> >> >> > > > > even
> >> >> > > > > less power. It doesn't even acknowledge reality.
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> >> >> > > > So why was I the one who acknowledged that Hezekiah's tunnel
> >> >> > > > exists
> >> >> > > > while atheists tried to claim that tour guides in Jerusalem were
> >> >> > > > taking tourists through solid rock?
> >> >> > > > Robert B. Winn
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> >> >> > > This is another of your more persistent lies. No-one said at any
> >> >> > > stage that there is no tunnel.
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> >> >> > > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> >> >> > You continue to say that the Bible is nothing but mythology. If you
> >> >> > say that the Bible is nothing but mythology, you are saying that the
> >> >> > tunnel is mythology because the Bible describes the construction of
> >> >> > Hezekiah's tunnel in three different books of the Old Testament.
> >> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> >> No. You continue to not see the point. It is quite disturbing.
> >> >> Greek mythology mentions Mount Olympus and Athens, both of which exist
> >> >> today. This does not mean that Athens is mythological.
> >> >> Surely you can't be THAT stupid.
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> >> > I am not so stupid as to believe that an atheist would ever do
> >> > anything but deny that Hezekiah's tunnel exists. If you tell me that
> >> > you believe the tunnel exists, all you are doing is saying that you
> >> > would tell the next person it does not exist. That is how you do
> >> > things. Since that is the way you are, I just keep it simple by
> >> > saying that you continue to deny the existence of the tunnel. Denying
> >> > the veracity of anything in the Bible is more important to you than
> >> > the existence of the tunnel. As long as it remains that way, you do
> >> > not admit that the tunnel exists. All you are doing is just putting
> >> > words together in an attempt to deceive.
> >> > Robert B. Winn
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> >> Would it make you happy if an atheist walked through the tunnel?
> >> For f**ks sake, I'd be willing to pay out to visit the bloody place and
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> >> through it just to shut you up.
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> > What would that accomplish? �You would still deny that the Bible
> > describes the construction of the tunnel.
> > Robert B. Winn
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> BECAUSE IT DOES NOT DESCRIBE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TUNNEL AT ALL YOU
> IDIOT!
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> A tunnel and a pool gets a brief mention in 2 Kings 20 ;20 and a conduit is
> briefly mentioned Isaiah 1, 36;2 and there is even a brief reference to a
> conduit and an upper pool in 2 Kings 18;9- but none of those passages,
> describe any kind of construction at all.
> There is no detail about how it was built, what materials were used, the
> type and amount of labor used - all of these things do not get mentioned at
> all.
> That is the normal meaning of the word CONSTRUCTION
> Certainly, a tunnel in roughly the same location exists today (and a couple
> of others in different locations too)- but the only passage that refers to
> Hezekiah is 2 Kings 20, and there is certainly not enough detail to confirm
> that the tunnel used today by tourists is the same one referred to in the
> bible
> It's the first time I bothered to getting around to check the biblical
> claims you've been talking about- you've been exaggerating the significance
> of the �references to the tunnel, almost as if it described in detail about
> how the tunnel was built.
> A significant and misleading use of the word, construction, I think.
> Even so, what the hell does it matter?
> ALL of the special claims in the bible are complete junk, and heavily
> mythologised.
> What does it matter about your tunnel?
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Thank you, Steve.  I think you have just spoken for all atheists.  You
are saying that the tunnel found by members of the British military
after looking for a conduit for water where the Bible says a conduit
for water exists is not the tunnel described in the Bible.  Then you
say that because the word construction was not used in the Bible,
there is no evidence that a tunnel was constructed.  The workers who
built the tunnel left an inscription on the wall that said they
constructed the tunnel if you think the Biblical account is not
specific enough, but how exactly do you think the tunnel got there if
it was not constructed?
At any rate, you have proven what I have said all along.  Atheists
still deny the existence of Hezekiah's tunnel.
Robert B. Winn