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Article #11019Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:58
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:58
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On Aug 6, 1:50�am, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote: > On Aug 6, 4:29 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 5, 7:47 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Aug 5, 6:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > > > >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the > > > >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for > > > >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto > > > >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of > > > >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > > > >>>>>>>>>>> caught. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > > > >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > > > >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish > > > >>>>>>>>>>> likewise. > > > >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > > > >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > > > >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > > > >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > > > >>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as > > > >>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > > > >>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". > > > >>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn > > > >>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as > > > >>>>>> evidence. > > > >>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern > > > >>>>>> time crime or cases? > > > >>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I > > > >>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text - > > > >>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that > > > >>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence. > > > >>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is > > > >>>> nil at this point. > > > >>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only > > > >>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms. > > > >> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence? > > > > >>> That does not mean that the Bible > > > >>> is not evidence. No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to > > > >>> make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence. > > > >> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. > > > > >> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence. > > > > >> -- > > > > > So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does > > > > not exist. > > > > Um. No. > > > � If the Bible exists, then it is evidence. �So does it exist or not? > > Robert B. Winn > > Yes, several of them exist. �Several Harry Potter books exist too. > What was your point here anyway? > If you want to talk about Harry Potter books, we can talk about Harry Potter books, Al. Do you believe that Harry Potter is going to save you? Robert B. Winn
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