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Article #11029Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:21
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:21
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On Aug 5, 7:32�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 5, 6:31 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 4, 9:22 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Aug 5, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 4, 5:34 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism > >>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in > >>>>>> <df36fbb3-4bc6-4217-93a7-eb8537d50...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>: > >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the > >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for > >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto > >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of > >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>>>>>>>>>> caught. > >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst > >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish > >>>>>>>>>>> likewise. > >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. ? > >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > >>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as > >>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". > >>>>>> When did you last check the rules of evidence?- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>>> The last time I was in court. I attempted to introduce the > >>>>> Constitution of the United States as evidence. > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > >>>> Yes, the constitution was written in modern time and is not a story. > >>>> The bible was written more than 2000 years ago and was a collection of > >>>> tales meant to con the young into sleep. > >>>> You do not know the significance of a constitution and a fictional > >>>> story book.- Hide quoted text - > >>>> - Show quoted text - > >>> I said I attempted to enter the Constitution as evidence. Judges in > >>> America today do not allow the Constitution in their police state > >>> courts. > >> Just like they do not allow independent voters to run for public office, > >> right? I demolished that claim. Want me to demolish this one? All I > >> need to do is to find ONE case wherein the Constitution was used as > >> evidence. > > >> Want me to do that? > > > You did not demolish anything. �Independent voters are prevented from > > running for office every way party politicians can think of to prevent > > them from running. > > That is just a fact. > > And, as I showed, that's NOT a fact. �It's a downright, bald-faced lie. > � The existence of Bernie Sanders demolishes your claim. > > > As for the other matter, you would have to find a case where a police > > state judge allowed a defendant to refer to the Constitution or > > Constitutional rights. > > Want me to do that? > Bernie Sanders is not an independent voter. He is a political party member just as Joseph Lieberman is a party member. Robert B. Winn
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