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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:28
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On Aug 5, 7:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 5, 6:45 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> rbwinn wrote:
> >>> On Aug 4, 10:01 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>> On Aug 4, 3:54 pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:147d2d46-ff33-4aac-b29a-7e24af243840@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
> >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> >>>>>>>>>>> caught.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples
> >>>>>>>>>>> durst
> >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> >>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted
> >>>>>>>>>> text -
> >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court.
> >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
> >>>>>>> For all kinds of cases. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
> >>>>>>> evidence in the monkey trial.
> >>>>>>> Robert B. Winn
> >>>>>> All kinds if cases?
> >>>>>> You mean, "one type of case"?
> >>>>> No, a lawyer can attempt to introduce any physical object as evidence
> >>>>> in a court case.
> >>>> But, will it be ACCEPTED as evidence?
> >>>> You keep trying these clever games with your debating tactics. Clever,
> >>>> to you. Lame and flimsy to everyone else.
> >>> Not today. A judge today in the United States will not even allow the
> >>> Constitution of the United States to be entered as evidence.
> >> Want me to demolish that claim, too?
>
> > Go ahead and try. �Show where one of these police state judges has
> > allowed the Constitution in police state court.
>
> So glad for your permission.
>
> United States v. Donald Fell
> Case summary: Is the Federal Death Penalty Act of 1994 unconstitutional
> as per the 8th Amendment?http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/crim/usfell92402opn.pdf
>
This defendant was obviously given a trial by jury.  This case does
not apply.
Robert B. Winn
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From: rbwinn <rbwinn3@juno.com>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 23:28:13 -0700 (PDT)
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