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Article #11035Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:29
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:29
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On Aug 5, 7:47�pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 5, 6:50 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the > >>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for > >>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto > >>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of > >>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>>>>>>>>>> caught. > >>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst > >>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish > >>>>>>>>>>> likewise. > >>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > >>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > >>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as > >>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". > >>>>>>> Riobert B. Winn > >>>>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as > >>>>>> evidence. > >>>>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern > >>>>>> time crime or cases? > >>>>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I > >>>>>> thought.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that > >>>>> precedent in American jurisprudence. > >>>> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is > >>>> nil at this point. > >>> Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only > >>> atheism is allowed in courtrooms. > >> You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence? > > >>> That does not mean that the Bible > >>> is not evidence. No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to > >>> make the Bible disappear. That is why it is evidence. > >> Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. > > >> It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence. > > >> -- > > > So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does > > not exist. > > Um. �No. If the Bible exists, then it is evidence. So does it exist or not? Robert B. Winn
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