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Article #11057Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:03
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:03
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On Aug 5, 6:50�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >>> On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > >>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > >>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the > >>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for > >>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto > >>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of > >>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >>>>>>>>> caught. > >>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst > >>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish > >>>>>>>>> likewise. > >>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text - > >>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > >>>>>> For what kinds of cases? > >>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as > >>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". > >>>>> Riobert B. Winn > >>>> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as > >>>> evidence. > >>>> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern > >>>> time crime or cases? > >>>> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I > >>>> thought.- Hide quoted text - > >>> Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that > >>> precedent in American jurisprudence. > >> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is > >> nil at this point. > > > Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only > > atheism is allowed in courtrooms. � > > You mean, they'll only allow secular evidence? > > > That does not mean that the Bible > > is not evidence. �No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to > > make the Bible disappear. �That is why it is evidence. > > Atheists are not trying to make the Bible disappear. > > It also isn't evidence, no matter hard you try to make it evidence. > > -- > So you are saying that the Bible is like Hezekiah's tunnel, it does not exist. Robert B. Winn
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