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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:09
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On Aug 5, 11:32 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
> On Aug 4, 9:36 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>
>
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> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> > On Aug 4, 9:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
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> > > On Aug 3, 8:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
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> > > > rbwinn wrote:
> > > > > On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > >> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > >>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > >>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
> > > > >>>>>> in alt.atheism:
> > > > >>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> ...
> > > > >>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
> > > > >>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
> > > > >>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
> > > > >>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
> > > > >>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
> > > > >>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
> > > > >>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
> > > > >>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
> > > > >>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
> > > > >>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
> > > > >>> them, Peace be unto you.
> > > > >>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
> > > > >>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
> > > > >>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
> > > > >>> caught.
> > > > >>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
> > > > >>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
> > > > >>> many, yet was not the net broken.
> > > > >>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
> > > > >>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
> > > > >>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
> > > > >>> likewise.
> > > > >>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
> > > > >>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
> > > > >> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim.
>
> > > > > Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. If
> > > > > something exists, it can be entered into evidence. The Bible
> > > > > exists.
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> > > > This post exists. This post says that unicorns exist. Therefore, this
> > > > post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. Right?
>
> > > > Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim?
>
> > > No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth.
>
> > > > > So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it
> > > > > cannot be entered into evidence?
> > > > > This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning
> > > > > Hezekiah's tunnel.
>
> > > > Um, no. And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything
> > > > about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that
> > > > tripe.
>
> > > One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax
> > > perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides.
> > > Robert B. Winn
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> > And none in this discussion and no citation to back up this claim.
> > And yet you ascribe all atheists with the property of denying tunnel
> > exists.
> > Why is that? Could it be that you're another Liar-for-jesus?
>
> > Al- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> No, it is just that knowing the way atheists are, if an atheist tells
> me that he believes the tunnel exists, I do not believe that atheist
> is really conceding its existence, but will continue to say that the
> Bible is nothing but mythology even after being shown that it is not.
> Robert B. Winn

So, your preconceived ideas trump reality.  Can't say I'm surprised.
In fact you commonly ascribe to people things they never said, which
is another way of saying you lie about them.  Are you going to excuse
these lies as "knowing the way atheists think"?  Because you clearly
don't know how to yourself.

Al
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From: "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)" <alwhipp@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups: sci.physics,cam.misc,alt.sci.physics,alt.atheism
Subject: Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 19:09:48 -0700 (PDT)
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