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Article #11070Re: Does God need to prove He exists?
From: rbwinn
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:30
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:30
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On Aug 5, 1:44�pm, "Steve O" <nospamh...@thanks.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in message > > news:7217908d-1342-4ff4-9870-2a8a3b24450f@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 10:10 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> rbwinn wrote: > >> > On Aug 4, 8:35 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On Aug 4, 8:02 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote: > > >> >>> On Aug 3, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> > >> >>>>>> wrote > >> >>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >> >>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn > >> >>>>>>>>>> <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote > >> >>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism: > >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> >>>>>>>>>> ... > >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >> >>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >> >>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >> >>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >> >>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim. > >> >>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > >> >>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your > >> >>>>>>>> claim. > >> >>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of > >> >>>>>>> the > >> >>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled > >> >>>>>>> for > >> >>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith > >> >>>>>>> unto > >> >>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you. > >> >>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire > >> >>>>>>> of > >> >>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. > >> >>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now > >> >>>>>>> caught. > >> >>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great > >> >>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so > >> >>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken. > >> >>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples > >> >>>>>>> durst > >> >>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. > >> >>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and > >> >>>>>>> fish > >> >>>>>>> likewise. > >> >>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his > >> >>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. > >> >>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide > >> >>>>>> quoted text - > >> >>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. > >> >>>> For what kinds of cases? > >> >>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as > >> >>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as > >> >>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial". > >> >>> Riobert B. Winn > >> >> A judge must be mad or loony if he were to allow for bible as > >> >> evidence. > >> >> You mean that ancient time recording can be the evidence for modern > >> >> time crime or cases? > >> >> This would also mean America is declining, at a rate faster than I > >> >> thought.- Hide quoted text - > > >> > Well, it happened in 1934, or whenever it was. So we have that > >> > precedent in American jurisprudence. > > >> In only one type of trial, if it happened at all. Your credibility is > >> nil at this point. > > > Well, judges of today are very careful to make certain that only > > atheism is allowed in courtrooms. > > WTF are you going on about now???? > What on EARTH is a statement like that supposed to mean? > Do you actually have much experience with courts??? > What the hell would you describe as atheist evidence as opposed to normal > evidence? > I really have no idea what you are blabbering on about. > Please explain. > > > � That does not mean that the Bible > > is not evidence. > > Evidence of WHAT, you gibbering buffoon! > > >No matter how hard atheists try, they are unable to > > make the Bible disappear. �That is why it is evidence. > > Robert B. Winn > > EVIDENCE OF WHAT!!!!!! > > GAH! - You've got me shouting now- there's a good chance I could end up as > loony as you are. > Do you hage any idea how frustrating you can be > There's no possible way that anyone could hold a normal, rational > conversation with you - you're too far gone.- Hide quoted text - > It is the same as any other book. It is evidence of whatever is written in it. It is evidence that a printer made copies of the book. It is evidence of the materials that the book is made of. Do you have any understanding of what the word evidence means? Robert B. Winn
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