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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:32
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 5, 6:31�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 4, 9:22 pm, hhyaps...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Aug 5, 11:08 am, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 4, 5:34 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 05:02:25 -0700 (PDT), in alt.atheism
>>>>>> rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote in
>>>>>> <df36fbb3-4bc6-4217-93a7-eb8537d50...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:56?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:29 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12?am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. ?There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
>>>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
>>>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
>>>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
>>>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
>>>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
>>>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
>>>>>>>>>>> likewise.
>>>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>>>>>>>>>> The Bible still is not evidence. I asked for evidence.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>> The Bible is accepted as evidence in court. ?
>>>>>>>> For what kinds of cases?
>>>>>>> For any kind of case. A lawyer can request that a Bible be entered as
>>>>>>> evidence in any court case. Clarence Darrow had the Bible entered as
>>>>>>> evidence in the famous "monkey trial".
>>>>>> When did you last check the rules of evidence?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> The last time I was in court. I attempted to introduce the
>>>>> Constitution of the United States as evidence.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> Yes, the constitution was written in modern time and is not a story.
>>>> The bible was written more than 2000 years ago and was a collection of
>>>> tales meant to con the young into sleep.
>>>> You do not know the significance of a constitution and a fictional
>>>> story book.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> I said I attempted to enter the Constitution as evidence. �Judges in
>>> America today do not allow the Constitution in their police state
>>> courts.
>> Just like they do not allow independent voters to run for public office,
>> right? �I demolished that claim. �Want me to demolish this one? �All I
>> need to do is to find ONE case wherein the Constitution was used as
>> evidence.
>>
>> Want me to do that?
>>
> You did not demolish anything.  Independent voters are prevented from
> running for office every way party politicians can think of to prevent
> them from running.
> That is just a fact.

And, as I showed, that's NOT a fact.  It's a downright, bald-faced lie. 
  The existence of Bernie Sanders demolishes your claim.

> As for the other matter, you would have to find a case where a police
> state judge allowed a defendant to refer to the Constitution or
> Constitutional rights.

Want me to do that?


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