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Re: Does God need to prove He exists?

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From: DanielSan
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:32
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rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 5, 6:42�am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 4, 9:36 pm, "Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al)"
>>> <alwh...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>> On Aug 4, 9:40 pm, rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:38 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 4:18 pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 3, 8:12 am, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...@juno.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> in alt.atheism:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rbwinn wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No evidence backs up your claim.
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one.
>>>>>>>>>> I have a Bible. There's no evidence in there to back up your claim.
>>>>>>>>> John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the
>>>>>>>>> week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for
>>>>>>>>> fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto
>>>>>>>>> them, Peace be unto you.
>>>>>>>>> John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of
>>>>>>>>> coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread.
>>>>>>>>> 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now
>>>>>>>>> caught.
>>>>>>>>> 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great
>>>>>>>>> fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so
>>>>>>>>> many, yet was not the net broken.
>>>>>>>>> 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst
>>>>>>>>> ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.
>>>>>>>>> 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish
>>>>>>>>> likewise.
>>>>>>>>> 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
>>>>>>>>> disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
>>>>>>>> No, that's not evidence. That's a claim.
>>>>>>> Well, you have to understand something about rules of evidence. If
>>>>>>> something exists, it can be entered into evidence. The Bible
>>>>>>> exists.
>>>>>> This post exists. This post says that unicorns exist. Therefore, this
>>>>>> post can be entered into evidence and unicorns must exist. Right?
>>>>>> Or is "unicorns exist" just a claim?
>>>>> No, it is evidence that you are not telling the truth.
>>>>>>> So what is your position, that the Bible does not exist, therefore it
>>>>>>> cannot be entered into evidence?
>>>>>>> This is the same tactic you have used from the beginning concerning
>>>>>>> Hezekiah's tunnel.
>>>>>> Um, no. And you cannot prove that any atheist has ever said anything
>>>>>> about Hezekiah's tunnel not existing, so you might as well give up that
>>>>>> tripe.
>>>>> One atheist a few years back said that Hezekiah's tunnel was a hoax
>>>>> perpetrated by Jerusalem tour guides.
>>>>> Robert B. Winn
>>>> And none in this discussion and no citation to back up this claim.
>>>> And yet you ascribe all atheists with the property of denying tunnel
>>>> exists.
>>>> Why is that? Could it be that you're another Liar-for-jesus?
>>>> Al- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> No, it is just that knowing the way atheists are,
>> You have shown time and again that you have NO knowledge of the way
>> atheists really are.
>>
>>> if an atheist tells
>>> me that he believes the tunnel exists, I do not believe that atheist
>>> is really conceding its existence, but will continue to say that the
>>> Bible is nothing but mythology even after being shown that it is not.
>> Why? �Because the tunnel exists?
>>
> The tunnel exists.  It is right where the Bible said a tunnel was dug
> as a conduit for water.

And what does that have to do with anything?


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